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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.


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#21 Fnu Aw

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

Snapping Twilight out of a trance by misaligning one little thing is one of the funniest moments of the season. Her friends have her all figured out. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

I like how it looks like Spike scribbled down his "Noble Dragon Code" onto an index card in his spare time.

Even has a poorly drawn picture of himself on it!

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

Pretty much all the animation here was awesome.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

can't say it was the best spike episode.. but it was okay for what it was...

kinda want the butt scratch animation to flourish... the "omg feels" face on Applejack was hilarious
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE(Cabooceratops @ Dec 29 2012, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like how it looks like Spike scribbled down his "Noble Dragon Code" onto an index card in his spare time.

Even has a poorly drawn picture of himself on it!

My thoughts as well. And Spike says "MY Nobel Dragon Code." not "THE Nobel Dragon Code."
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE(Guardian Prime @ Dec 28 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cabooceratops @ Dec 28 2012, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AHA

I figured out the source of our "malware" problem.

Guardian Prime, change the imagehost of the chat image, as that's the site that's giving everybody grief.

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Done! I've put the chat image in a new home at my photobucket. Let me know if that fixed it. I'll fix it in the previous episode thread too.


I've updated the index thread picture and paste code. Wonder what freeimagehosting did to frost whoever.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:24 PM

I approve of beasts from Everfree being rendered in 3D. It makes the pace a bit more eldritch.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

Indeed, I noticed too that this is the first time 3D was used in the series... and it looked quite natural.

The story was a quite generic "repay-the-debt-by-saving-life" story, but what made it awesome were the great character moments - Twilight being almost Ultra Magnus-levels of an OCD neat-freak (she notices stuff being misaligned from the other end of the room?), Fluttershy's quite reasonable idea (figures she's the only one to think of that), Pinkie's hair-brained scheme (and moustache), Rarity's lessons in how to be a damsel in distress (and Spike's crush on her was not forgotten either), Rainbow Dash's idea for a novel (and Rarity's reaction)... It was perfect.

I wonder what Timberwolves are, actually... maybe the forest's magic animates them, or are they sentient plantlife like shambling mounds? It's a mystery why they'd want to eat ponies, considering they are made of wood... but apparently they need to breath as well? I kinda felt bad for them being destroyed, but apparently they can regenerate quite easily.

Oh, and this scene... sooo reminded me of when Courage the Cowardly Dog says "This shouldn't happen to a dog!" icon-fire.gif



But still, this is the quote and picture of the day:



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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

Poor Rarity getting made to eat that pie too. icon-fire.gif
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:28 PM

Why is it that Merriwether's better episodes are the ones where she's just adding action & dialogue to someone else's story? Seriously, so far the episodes that she took half the credit for. Though this would've worked better if Polsky was the writer because he never stretches out a joke as much as MW. I'm sorry Merri, remind me, is Spike a klutz? I still don't get it yet. Then again, unlike most Bronies the only time I ever had an issue with Polsky's writing was "Over A Barrel", to me the debates over his other episodes felt like reading into a kids cartoon too much. In fact I'm willing to say that he's one of my favorite writers, at least my favorite for Fluttershy right now and I look forward to KCAFO.

So then that they went with this "you saved my life so I'll be your servant" plot and it's because of this "Noble Dragon Code". (Which they never define as either a real thing or Spike making it up, I mean the card implied he made it up but Twi's line about dragons caring about honor implies that nobility is common among dragons) But they didn't explain why Spike didn't do this after the previous times he had to be saved. I mean shouldn't he, since they also saved his butt from danger, also be the servant of Owlowiscious, Rainbow Dash (and technically Fluttershy), & Princess Cadence (and technically Shining Armor)? They should've done what they did in "Hurricane Fluttershy" to explain why Fluttershy had troubles flying despite previous episodes, mention an offscreen event that's similar to those & give a reason for it.

Speaking of Fluttershy, am I the only perplexed with Fluttershy walking Winona in the background? I dunno, it felt like it was set up for a later scene that didn't happen. Like Applejack tells Spike that she never needs help only for Fluttershy to show up, telling her that Winona is all tired out from the walk AJ asked 'Shy to do for her since she was busy with the farm & Spike gives this "oh really?" face to AJ.

One of the more subtle problems (IE nitpicks) I have with Williams' episodes is how some characters appear in an awkward & almost illogical fashion. You know, Rarity behind the counter at the Sugar Cube, Rarity & Dash showing up at the library the same time, etc. Here there's two that stand out: Rainbow Dash popping in at Carousel Boutique and Fluttershy literally walking into a scene.

One moment I did like was how Rainbow Dash & Fluttershy give each other a hoof bump after Spike said Dashie's roar was spot on. That was adorable, I don't care what anypony else think.

The CGI bothers me, mostly because it looks so cheap looking. A lot of CGI in these 2D shows look very weak. I get it's easier to animate a vehicle or monster in CGI rather than drawing it but when it looks like our heroes just need to do to defeat it is pulling the plug on the computer providing the animation.

In the end, "Spike At Your Service" gets a B- . It has some entertaining moments & kept my attention unlike last week's, but it felt by the numbers & lacking that MLP magic.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE(Zealous One @ Dec 28 2012, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering how little Spike really knows about his kind, I'm thinking he probably just made it up.


He is a lot like Worf and his ideas about klingon honor, in this regard. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:00 PM

Then again, maybe he read about honor, made up the card, and will forget about i by next week. he is a baby dragon, after all.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE(Don_East @ Dec 29 2012, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Fluttershy, am I the only perplexed with Fluttershy walking Winona in the background? I dunno, it felt like it was set up for a later scene that didn't happen. Like Applejack tells Spike that she never needs help only for Fluttershy to show up, telling her that Winona is all tired out from the walk AJ asked 'Shy to do for her since she was busy with the farm & Spike gives this "oh really?" face to AJ.

I meant to comment on that too, actually. I thought it was kind of strange, but I imagine Fluttershy probably volunteers to take care of the other ponies' pets when they're busy, so she was probably walking Winona as a favor for Applejack (similar to how she took care of Opal for Rarity in Stare Master).

Speaking of pets, whatever happened to Owloysius and Peewee? I know we saw the former very briefly in Magic Duel, but we haven't seen Peewee since his debut. I'm sure we'll see them in Just For Sidekicks.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE(Don_East @ Dec 29 2012, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is it that Merriwether's better episodes are the ones where she's just adding action & dialogue to someone else's story? Seriously, so far the episodes that she took half the credit for. Though this would've worked better if Polsky was the writer because he never stretches out a joke as much as MW. I'm sorry Merri, remind me, is Spike a klutz? I still don't get it yet. Then again, unlike most Bronies the only time I ever had an issue with Polsky's writing was "Over A Barrel", to me the debates over his other episodes felt like reading into a kids cartoon too much. In fact I'm willing to say that he's one of my favorite writers, at least my favorite for Fluttershy right now and I look forward to KCAFO.

I'm more inclined to blame Polsky for making Spike such a klutz, not Williams. It seems more like Polsky's style. His episodes tend to be on the zany/slapstick side. Plus it's established that Spike is a good cook, and Williams is usually pretty good about continuity details like that.

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One of the more subtle problems (IE nitpicks) I have with Williams' episodes is how some characters appear in an awkward & almost illogical fashion. You know, Rarity behind the counter at the Sugar Cube, Rarity & Dash showing up at the library the same time, etc. Here there's two that stand out: Rainbow Dash popping in at Carousel Boutique and Fluttershy literally walking into a scene.

I never noticed a problem there. There was a huge line at Sugar Cube, and the Cakes didn't seem to be around, so it's perfectly logical for Pinkie Pie to get someone she trusts to help out, and she surely wasn't going to pick Applejack again. Rarity and Rainbow Dash showed up at the library at the same time because they were on their way to get breakfast somewhere and decided to invite Twilight. I'll give you that there's no explanation for Rainbow Dash popping in at the Carousel Boutique, but how much reason does there need to be? She may have just felt like saying hi. As for Fluttershy walking into a scene, she probably got curious when she saw the giant stack of rocks that wasn't there that morning.

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One moment I did like was how Rainbow Dash & Fluttershy give each other a hoof bump after Spike said Dashie's roar was spot on. That was adorable, I don't care what anypony else think.

Now that we agree on.

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The CGI bothers me, mostly because it looks so cheap looking. A lot of CGI in these 2D shows look very weak. I get it's easier to animate a vehicle or monster in CGI rather than drawing it but when it looks like our heroes just need to do to defeat it is pulling the plug on the computer providing the animation.

I think it adds to the freakiness of the timberwolves. They look like they don't belong in this show, which seems suitable for creatures that live in a place that's considered unnatural.

Edited by Fnu Aw, 29 December 2012 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

Speaking of hoofbumps, I liked the "hoof"bump that Spike did with AJ.

Also, is it just me or is anyone else bothered when terms like "anypony" and "everypony" are used to describe non-ponies? Those terms were used in A Friend in Deed in reference to Cranky Doodle Donkey and Matilda, and they were used here to describe Spike. Also, Spike can't exactly "lend a hoof." I know, minor nitpicks, blah blah blah...

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:07 PM

Not in Spike's case imo since he has been brought up around Ponies and uses their language. Although he does make a big thing about his being a dragon too..

I don't Fluttershy's entrance into the scene needs explaining since that tower of rocks would be visible from a distance.
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Edited by BlitzwingHaz, 29 December 2012 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

Has this episode officially set the record for appearances of the "LOL face"?

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:55 PM



Some of them did stand out in an incredibly bad way.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:42 AM

Man, this might be the weakest episode of the season.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Dec 30 2012, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, this might be the weakest episode of the season.


I would go as far as saying "weakest of the whole show".


One of the main factors that made this show such a pleasant surprise to me was that they liked to toy with plot archetypes and went to unexpected places with them. None of that can be seen here. Instead, this was a paint-by-numbers plot where every clich? they could have gone with was realized in full force. Very disappointing.

Also, it seems off-tone for the show that Applejack (and later Spike) indiscriminately killed those Timberwolves without even Fluttershy questioning it.





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