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@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that timeline after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same timeline.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o


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#1 crazyjw18

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Posted 30 May 2006 - 02:45 AM

Well, here's what I've got. Not a huge collection, but I like it. I will retake some better pictures when I get time to put up another shelf or two and get things more organized.
















Edited by crazyjw18, 05 October 2006 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2006 - 05:04 AM

Nice, very nice.

Didn't realise Cybertron Metroplex was so big.

Nice to see how G2 Megatron compares with the Alternators in vehicle modes. Any pics of him and an Alt in robot mode?

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Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:11 AM

Wow, I'd hardly consider that a small collection. I like your custom Laser Prime, and props for owning the 1:18 flying DeLorean.


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Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:28 AM

QUOTE(thoughtcrime @ May 30 2006, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, I'd hardly consider that a small collection. I like your custom Laser Prime, and props for owning the 1:18 flying DeLorean.



I have to agree. That is by no means small.

Its a great collection!
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:36 AM

Sigh.....how I wish I had space to display my entire collection. Alas, I don't have a room to spare, and my parents would kill me for taking one.

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Posted 30 May 2006 - 10:21 AM

Nice collection! I see you have all of the Galaxy Force Rambles.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE(windsweeper @ May 30 2006, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice, very nice.

Didn't realise Cybertron Metroplex was so big.

Nice to see how G2 Megatron compares with the Alternators in vehicle modes. Any pics of him and an Alt in robot mode?


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QUOTE(sideways @ May 30 2006, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice collection! I see you have all of the Galaxy Force Rambles.

Actually, two Rambles and a Cybertron Scrapmetal.

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Edited by crazyjw18, 30 May 2006 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:14 AM

They still make a nice set. I only have one Cybertron Scrapmetal. They still have not come to my Wal-Mart (I got the one I have on ebay).

Edited by sideways, 31 May 2006 - 09:15 AM.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:29 AM

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What Optimus Primal is that? A custom painted Blast Punch or Air Attack or something?

Regardless, more pics of him! He looks awesome.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE(crazyjw18 @ May 30 2006, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(windsweeper @ May 30 2006, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Nice, very nice.

Didn't realise Cybertron Metroplex was so big.

Nice to see how G2 Megatron compares with the Alternators in vehicle modes. Any pics of him and an Alt in robot mode?


Ask, and you shall recieve.



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Poor Prowl didn't stand a chance.

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#11 crazyjw18

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:35 PM

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What Optimus Primal is that? A custom painted Blast Punch or Air Attack or something?

Regardless, more pics of him! He looks awesome.

He's actually a entirely new mold Big Lots knockoff that they sell around Christmas time every year. He's pretty impressive, and comes with two black Swords from the original Optimus Primal toy. They only downside is that he's made of pretty brittle plastic.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(crazyjw18 @ May 31 2006, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(xZAOx @ May 31 2006, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What Optimus Primal is that? A custom painted Blast Punch or Air Attack or something?

Regardless, more pics of him! He looks awesome.

He's actually a entirely new mold Big Lots knockoff that they sell around Christmas time every year. He's pretty impressive, and comes with two black Swords from the original Optimus Primal toy. They only downside is that he's made of pretty brittle plastic.


That's awesome. Should make him cheap icon-hotrod.gif. I figured it was a custom. And that explains why I couldn't figure out exactly which one he was. Can I get some more pics of him, preferably in both modes (if he has a robot mode)?

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:41 PM

Very impressive collection you've got their mate, particularly impressive as you haven't been collecting all that long. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:43 PM

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That's awesome. Should make him cheap icon-hotrod.gif. I figured it was a custom. And that explains why I couldn't figure out exactly which one he was. Can I get some more pics of him, preferably in both modes (if he has a robot mode)?


It was pretty cheap. I believe either $5.99 or $7.99.

That is in robot mode in the pic, I'll get a couple more pics of him in both modes tonight when I get home.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:50 PM

Wow, that's a great collection; a lot of variety. I don't have many Robot Masters (Just the three G1 Seekers and Double Face), so it's quite neat to see several of the other RM figures displayed there.

Really makes me wanna get around to moving into our new place, and more importantly, setting up our new camera (How long do they have to make these instruction manuals, anyhow...?) so I can contribute my own pics.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 06:48 PM

i think you need a couple more devastators there lol

how many 'bots you reckon you have? wish i had a spot to put all my bots up on display and take pics of em icon-screamer.gif
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Posted 31 May 2006 - 07:07 PM

small is not how I describe that
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Posted 31 May 2006 - 07:20 PM

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i think you need a couple more devastators there lol

how many 'bots you reckon you have? wish i had a spot to put all my bots up on display and take pics of em icon-screamer.gif


The sad thing is, they are all KOs. I usually buy two of them because the crappy quality means they break easily. The whole shelf those are on are all KOs, actually.

A total count I do not have right now. The only thing I keep up with numbers wise is minicons, which I believe I'm up to 168 on.

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 08:33 PM

*sigh* I wish I had the room to display all of my stuff, looks good! icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 02:51 AM

As promised, here are the pics of that Big Lots knockoff BM Optimus Primal.

Robot mode from the front. Notice the BW Primal swords.
http://i2.photobucke...on/DSCF0430.jpg

Robot mode from the rear...not as pretty.
http://i2.photobucke...on/DSCF0431.jpg

And beast mode. Basically the hands flip around to paws, the robot head folds into the chest, the waist rotates around, and the gorilla head moves up to the top.
http://i2.photobucke...on/DSCF0432.jpg

Edited by crazyjw18, 26 August 2006 - 10:08 PM.