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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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#1 Ruler Bulon

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:22 PM

A first look at Soundblaster for the non-Botcon crowd. Ch-ch-check 'em out.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

I'm glad we're getting new tapebots, but nothing can make me like that Soundwave design.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:35 PM

Oh come now. What if they smashed it with a hammer? That could help.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:43 PM

I think that design looks great at Voyager size. It was wonky as a Deluxe (still good, mind), but way more filled out now.

But now I need a Voyager Megatron.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yep, I want a Voyager Megatron, Prime, and Grimlock now. Glad we finally got a Soundwave with all the bells and whistles again, but he's pretty huge compared to everything else from WFC/FOC. I was definitely struck by what a large toy he was in person.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:47 PM

I'm more and more unsure this is a wise choice. Soundwave already had a toy. Of all the FOC characters, they make SOUNDWAVE the larger toy for the sake of his cassette throwing gimmick, but meanwhile characters like Optimus Prime, Megatron, Shockwave and just any other larger robot is Deluxe size. I may just keep the Deluxe and give him the Legends sidekicks. Who cares if they don't fit inside?

Edited by mignash, 07 May 2012 - 04:53 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:49 PM

Yeah, but on the other hand, I bet this will look awesome next to Classics Megatron.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:50 PM

I should be loving that, but I'm not.

I think someone snuck in and gave me a joyectomy.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:15 PM

Hmm.. that was not how I was expecting his chest to open.
I was thinking more Depth Charge, less Hurricanger/Ninja Storm.

Still an awesome gimmick though.

Here's hoping we get to see the Prime voyagers soon.

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#11 Boss Borot

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:28 PM

Does the panel inside his chest slide back so he can store more than one disc at a time? I guess that's pretty neat.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:35 PM

I will be interested to know if Soundblaster is New Soundwave or if he's a different character entirely.

#13 Chip

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:49 PM

Not sure which one I want. I'm leaning toward Soundblaster, if just for Buzzsaw and the yellow eyes.

...I wonder if we'll see a purple version, from the club or something. With Garboil, maybe?

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:01 PM

I think they look REALLY good.

If the fists rotate then he's downright AWESOME. Either way he looks SOOO much better than the previous version of that design. I though that one was terrible and passed. THIS is must own.

I didn't think I'd want both, as I have no attatchment to Soundblaster, but darn it if I don't need Buzzsaw and he does look great.

I'm in for both AND every data disk con they make. I would care less without that gimick but it is THE CORE of what Soundwave and his minnions are about for me. And I love that they took them in a modern Bakkugan direction. It's just the perfect update of one of the classic play patterns.


-ZacWilliam, the ONLY way I could really be more sold is if we'd seen a Blaster and Autobot Data Disks too. But as is these are just one of the coolest things in years. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:13 PM

As I said before, I want Soundblaster just so I can see about making a toy of Database since he's black and has some similar desgin elements to Soundwave.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 8 2012, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, the ONLY way I could really be more sold is if we'd seen a Blaster and Autobot Data Disks too. But as is these are just one of the coolest things in years. icon-hotrod.gif

Was anyone else surprised the alternate version is New Soundwave rather than a head & chest (well, head & disc-door) remould into Blaster?

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE(Somebody @ May 8 2012, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For my fellow non-Facebookers, TFW has the images on open view: http://www.tfw2005.c...evealed-175015/

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 8 2012, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, the ONLY way I could really be more sold is if we'd seen a Blaster and Autobot Data Disks too. But as is these are just one of the coolest things in years. icon-hotrod.gif

Was anyone else surprised the alternate version is New Soundwave rather than a head & chest (well, head & disc-door) remould into Blaster?


Blaster? Don't you mean Billy?

Since we seem to be using the names from the StarTV dubs of Headmasters.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE(Boss Borot @ May 7 2012, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does the panel inside his chest slide back so he can store more than one disc at a time? I guess that's pretty neat.

He can store 4 discs at a time if my Botcon memory serves.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:31 PM

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ May 7 2012, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Somebody @ May 8 2012, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For my fellow non-Facebookers, TFW has the images on open view: http://www.tfw2005.c...evealed-175015/

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 8 2012, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, the ONLY way I could really be more sold is if we'd seen a Blaster and Autobot Data Disks too. But as is these are just one of the coolest things in years. icon-hotrod.gif

Was anyone else surprised the alternate version is New Soundwave rather than a head & chest (well, head & disc-door) remould into Blaster?


Blaster? Don't you mean Billy?

Since we seem to be using the names from the StarTV dubs of Headmasters.


Darn that Soundwave.


I'll probably pick up one or the other. The gimmick is too fun to ignore.
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