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@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 06:29 PM)

So apparently the 2016 remake of "Instruments of Destruction" is out. I'm still waiting for an Amazon download to become available, but the clips I heard thus far sound cool. They're using the uncensored lyrics!

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 03:02 PM)

:(

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 September 2016 - 08:25 AM)

Sorry bebbeh, I'm taken.

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 08:18 AM)

Alpha-Q!

@  zephyrX9 : (25 September 2016 - 01:06 AM)

You know, while the Personality Ticks were part of my second least favorite mtmte arc, I'd love to see them show up in ROM

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 September 2016 - 06:54 PM)

But can you breathe in space?

@  Nevermore : (24 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

I'M BATMAN!

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 September 2016 - 03:59 PM)

I AM OPTIMUS PRIME

@  Rycochet : (24 September 2016 - 03:47 PM)

That Sam-I-am! That Sam-I-am! I do not like that Sam-I-am!

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 September 2016 - 03:37 PM)

I am...MEGATRON! RAAAAAAAR!!

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 September 2016 - 01:02 PM)

I. AM. IRON MAN.

@  Telly : (24 September 2016 - 12:56 PM)

i am the i am i am the i am


Transformers Timelines II #7 - Transformers Invasion


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#1 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:23 PM

Please feel free to move this to the comics section.

Also, reading this thread assumes you either read the comic or don't care to be protected from plot, so read at your own risk...




So what did you think? I heard some people complain that the ending was hard to understand, but I didn't see it as being very vague. I wonder if the plot of this comic has anything to do with the canceled "The Ultimate Salvation" story by Fun Pub. The ending really seemed like a twisted version The Ultimate's Doom's plot.

BTW - Did you notice the cameos by Universe Legends Cosmos and Gentei Dark Skyfire?

Edited by mignash, 03 May 2012 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:21 PM

"Ultimate Salvation" will be finished later at some point and will tie up loose ends so that things can move on into this story as a fresh start. It's not canceled. This story is a separate thing.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:12 PM

Glad to know it will be printed eventually.

Again, plot warning below....




Okay, so Classicverse characters who live (assuming the damaged Autobot get repaired, as the club hinted) and are on Earth are:

Autobots
Blaster
Cosmos
Crossblades
Fortress Maximus
Grimlock
Ironhide
Jazz
Kick-Off
Metalhawk
Perceptor
Prowl
Ratchet
Rescue Roy
Scoop
Sideswipe
Silverbolt
Sunstreaker
Tracks
Ultra Magnus
Vroom
Warpath
Wheeljack

Grappel was seen in the Invasion Lithograph, but wasn't in the comic, so I guess he's still alive somewhere.

Decepticons
Carnivac
Dirge
Dreadwind
Gigatron
Horri-Bull
Megatron
Octopunch
Overbite
Seawing
Skalor
Skullgrin (Seen on the Lithograph in updated form, so I assume he lives and gets the upgrade)
Snaptrap
Snarler
Spinsiter
Stranglehold
Thrust
Weirdwolf

Dead Autobots: (all killed by the Junkions)
Broadside
Jackpot
Mainframe
Outback
Rad
Rollout
Sandstorm
Slapdash (What happens to his Nebulan anyways?)

Dead Decepticons (killed by a stampede of buffalo)
Nautilator
Tentakil


Minor complaints? They bother making a Transforming version of Kick-Off, and in the comic he never transforms! Come on, that seems like a given if you make an updated Transforming Action Master. Also, there was several panels where SG Decepticons seem to have purple Decepticon symbols. Sorta important to the plot.

Edited by mignash, 19 February 2013 - 06:52 AM.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:47 AM

Kick-Off doesn't like altmodes anyway, so not transforming kinda makes sense.

Edited by Item42, 04 May 2012 - 01:47 AM.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:02 AM

So... what's the best option for a Canadian to catch up on these? Mind, my LCBS seems to be pretty bad about getting the Fun Pub stuff even after it goes public, and I think the only one I have is the last Classics one with Ultra Magnus and crew.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:22 AM

EBay?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:56 AM

I'd think this'll be available through the Club Store at some point. That's where I'll get it eventually, at any rate.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:56 AM

I don't believe that they sold out, so whatever is left should be available at the Club Store eventually.

Also, for those looking to get the first Shattered Glass comic, I believe that Fun Pub is sold out of those. Which would mean that eBay is probably your best bet for the 2008 BotCon comic.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

It seems to me that the story is really inaccessible if you haven't been keeping up with the club/BC fiction (and even so, I find myself getting confused about who's good and who's evil). This comic seems like set-up for what's to come, and not at all a complete story. I expected Overlord to be a major player in the comic, but he just kind of shows up, fights a little, and does nothing of consequence. It also doesn't hint at why the Magnus toy has a clear face. A universe is destroyed (fairly unbelievably) and there are no emotions or consequences shown. In general, it seemed like the story was far too big for the space it was allotted.

That said, it is an interesting set-up. I look forward to reading more about this new clusterhug of a continuity.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:02 PM

Luckily with a mirror universe you don't really need to know the character if you know the opposite. Who is that red car? He's evil Tracks! Like Tracks, but evil. Most of the Major characters in this story were new anyways.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:26 PM

Reasons to like Classicsverse more than G2:

Nightbeat is alive.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:33 PM

Sure, he's PROBABLY dead.

Thing is there is pleanty of time that passed between Cheap Shots/At Game's End and Invasion that we don't really know where any off-screen Transformers were at the time of the destruction of the Classicverse. For all we know any off world Autobot or Decepticon could have been on Earth until the club tells us explicitly they are dead. Have they said specifically Nightbeat's crew was still off earth at the time the universe ended? Be a shame if the club killed off more of it's exclusives.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:51 AM

So... why destroy the Classicsverse? And what destroyed it?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE(LBD @ May 5 2012, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So... why destroy the Classicsverse?


Part of it was due to ReGeneration One. Since they are both meant as a continuation of the Marvel Comics run, it was a bit of courtesy to Simon Furman to clear the way so that no one viewed them as competing timelines.

QUOTE(LBD @ May 5 2012, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And what destroyed it?


HIGHLIGHT to view:
A combination of SG Ultra Magnus, an artifact called the Terminus Blade, and the rarified Energon on Classics Earth. Ultra Magnus wanted part of Classics Earth moved into the Shattered Glass Universe, and doing so destroyed the rest of the Classicsverse.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:22 PM

Tell me about this "Ultimate Salvation".
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:47 PM

Two more minor quibbles about Invasion...

1. Blaster is featured on the cover as one of the two "GOOD GUYS." with Metalhawk. Blaster only appeared in one group shot on the monitor on the cover. He didn't do anything or speak.

2. Perceptor appeared in his G1 Marvel style body design, but back in the Botcon Classicverse Lithograph we saw Perceptor in his newer Legends body. Did they just abandon that update for the retro look of his G1 body?

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:32 PM

1) The cover was limited to toys in the box set, presumably so they could release it ahead of the show and keep the at-show toys a surprise, even though this didn't happen. Metalhawk was the only Heroic Autobot in the set, so his other guy is bound to be less important. And Buster Jones, the voice of Blaster, was at the convention itself for the first time.

2) There are a lot of guys with upgraded bodies in the lithograph other than Perceptor. Tracks, Warpath, and Wheeljack all appear in their Generations/RTS bodies, and they are only seen in their original bodies in the comic itself. Of course, they're all slaughtered with the express purpose of upgrading them later into those new bodies, so I personally view the lithograph as a snapshot into the future, after everyone's been upgraded.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:17 PM

1. Okay, I get putting the guy who was appearing at the convention on the cover. Skullgrin made sense since he did something in the comic. I forgot Buster was there signing autographs.

2. I was talking about the CLASSICVERSE Lithograph from years back, not the Invasion Lithograph.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE(NightViper @ May 5 2012, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LBD @ May 5 2012, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So... why destroy the Classicsverse?


Part of it was due to ReGeneration One. Since they are both meant as a continuation of the Marvel Comics run, it was a bit of courtesy to Simon Furman to clear the way so that no one viewed them as competing timelines.

QUOTE(LBD @ May 5 2012, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And what destroyed it?


HIGHLIGHT to view:
A combination of SG Ultra Magnus, an artifact called the Terminus Blade, and the rarified Energon on Classics Earth. Ultra Magnus wanted part of Classics Earth moved into the Shattered Glass Universe, and doing so destroyed the rest of the Classicsverse.


Thanks! And wow... something about that just doesn't sit right.

How much did he take? And does this affect RGO and G2?

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

I thought I talked about this at the Comic panel... Not everyone NOT on Classics earth is dead. How is this possible?

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