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@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.


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#1 Maz

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

Hey guys,

I had a last minute change of plan for this week's article, so instead of the Lucky Draw segment of the "In Their Own Words" series, I've gone a little self-indulgent and started a 2-part Top 10 run down of the best finds I've made since returning to collecting 12 months ago, pitching it as a comparison with what all the contributors have provided over the last 4 weeks.

Clearly it doesn't compare, but hey, it gave me a theme!

Intermission ~ 12 Months Back ? Part 1 | TF Source News <- CLICK TO READ



All the best
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:33 AM

If I may ask, why did you stop for 4 years?
"I am stronger than you know."
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

Interesting but not drop-dead-amazing stuff, which you probably knew since it was the bottom half of your list...but I'm really intrigued about the Revell catalogs you mentioned re: the Countach models.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE(RCX @ May 2 2012, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I may ask, why did you stop for 4 years?


All sorts of reasons, my then-girlfriend/now-wife lived in Iceland so I spent a great deal of time and money travelling to see her on a regular basis in Iceland and sometimes the US, I was pretty burnt out after creating TF-1 and spending so much time chasing toys and posting on forums, it was also an incredibly unhappy and tumultuous period of time at my job which didn't leave me a great deal of energy or desire to pursue Transformers. I did still pick up the odd Animated and Movie toy, but vintage collecting was off the cards.


QUOTE(LV! @ May 2 2012, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting but not drop-dead-amazing stuff, which you probably knew since it was the bottom half of your list...but I'm really intrigued about the Revell catalogs you mentioned re: the Countach models.


Well, I find the Sample Takara Diaclone Smokescreen to be drop-dead amazing, but those are my tastes and not everybody else's. What kind of thing would you class as drop-dead amazing? I'm not sure you'll think that much more of my top 5 either, but do keep in mind I've had to constantly sell things to buy what I have, so you won't see and gold chromed lucky draw or MISB Japanese exclusives icon-hotrod.gif I tend to buy really obscure and unloved/undocumented stuff regularly.

All the best
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:17 PM

I love this kind of thing...thanks for sharing this! Congrats on your finds!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:07 PM

All your articles are really cool, and well written. Sometimes the depth level goes above my head, but generally I really like learning! Glad to see you're back and in a good enough place to begin again.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE(Maz @ May 3 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LV! @ May 2 2012, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting but not drop-dead-amazing stuff, which you probably knew since it was the bottom half of your list...but I'm really intrigued about the Revell catalogs you mentioned re: the Countach models.


Well, I find the Sample Takara Diaclone Smokescreen to be drop-dead amazing, but those are my tastes and not everybody else's. What kind of thing would you class as drop-dead amazing? I'm not sure you'll think that much more of my top 5 either, but do keep in mind I've had to constantly sell things to buy what I have, so you won't see and gold chromed lucky draw or MISB Japanese exclusives icon-hotrod.gif I tend to buy really obscure and unloved/undocumented stuff regularly.


Yeah, the Takara Smokescreen sample was pretty cool. i imagine it's worth at least twice what you got it for.

Edited by Item42, 02 May 2012 - 07:21 PM.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE(Maz @ May 2 2012, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I find the Sample Takara Diaclone Smokescreen to be drop-dead amazing, but those are my tastes and not everybody else's. What kind of thing would you class as drop-dead amazing? I'm not sure you'll think that much more of my top 5 either, but do keep in mind I've had to constantly sell things to buy what I have, so you won't see and gold chromed lucky draw or MISB Japanese exclusives icon-hotrod.gif I tend to buy really obscure and unloved/undocumented stuff regularly.

bear in mind that all of this is from the perspective of someone with nothing rarer in his collection than, like, a Bat-Robo.

Historically, the Smokescreen is amazing. As something to look at on a website, it's pretty much a totally normal Diaclone Smokescreen with a generic "SAMPLE" sticker on it. So while it's an unquestionably important part of the brand, it's nothing I can pore over the image of and be mystified. That's reserved for things like Bizarre Green And Pink G2 Mirage, or Peruvian Minibot packaging, or those Super Speed-Bot cardback mockups that advertise a mail-away Solarbot. Much less rare? Mostly. But still something I'm much more likely to ooh and ahh over pictures of on the Internet.

Now, if the Smokescreen has or is slated for a thorough photoshoot, that might change things up a bit...

Also: solid chrome toys aren't really my thing either, FWIW.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ May 3 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Maz @ May 2 2012, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I find the Sample Takara Diaclone Smokescreen to be drop-dead amazing, but those are my tastes and not everybody else's. What kind of thing would you class as drop-dead amazing? I'm not sure you'll think that much more of my top 5 either, but do keep in mind I've had to constantly sell things to buy what I have, so you won't see and gold chromed lucky draw or MISB Japanese exclusives icon-hotrod.gif I tend to buy really obscure and unloved/undocumented stuff regularly.

bear in mind that all of this is from the perspective of someone with nothing rarer in his collection than, like, a Bat-Robo.

Historically, the Smokescreen is amazing. As something to look at on a website, it's pretty much a totally normal Diaclone Smokescreen with a generic "SAMPLE" sticker on it. So while it's an unquestionably important part of the brand, it's nothing I can pore over the image of and be mystified. That's reserved for things like Bizarre Green And Pink G2 Mirage, or Peruvian Minibot packaging, or those Super Speed-Bot cardback mockups that advertise a mail-away Solarbot. Much less rare? Mostly. But still something I'm much more likely to ooh and ahh over pictures of on the Internet.

Now, if the Smokescreen has or is slated for a thorough photoshoot, that might change things up a bit...



Ohhhh how wrong you are icon-hotrod.gif The Smokescreen has had the "Datsun" "Turbo 280Z" "RR"etc factory Diaclone stickers surgically mutilated and then coloured over manually by pen or paint, also there are hand-written marks on the toy indicating where the Autobot symbols will go. For the complete run down see here:
http://www.tf-1.com/...art=smokesample

And if you can't be arsed to read all that waffle, here's a pic or 2:





All the best
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:31 PM

Now, see? That's much more interesting. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:17 PM

Part 2 : http://tfsource.com/...hs-back-part-2/

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:46 PM

The full Joustra Wheeljack article is fantastic.



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