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@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.


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#281 Smitty

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 11 2012, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And personally, I prefer each character to look distinctive and unique, which is why I am very happy about Hasbro's recent efforts to add value to redecos with new heads, different transformations, vehicle mode bits and the like. That's all I ever really asked for!

When was the last time Hasbro did a repaint that was deluxe or bigger. I mean just repaint no new parts or alternate parts that were always part of the mold, that was also a different character from a previous use of the mold...

Edited by Smitty, 12 May 2012 - 04:16 PM.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:23 PM

Fallback? Deep Dive? Banzai-Tron? Strafe?

I think pretty much everything after that was either the same character or had a (p)remold.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ May 12 2012, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fallback? Deep Dive? Banzai-Tron? Strafe?

I think pretty much everything after that was either the same character or had a (p)remold.

They were all tail end of the movie line right? Wait were they before or after Classics and Friends Thundercracker?

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ May 12 2012, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ May 12 2012, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fallback? Deep Dive? Banzai-Tron? Strafe?

I think pretty much everything after that was either the same character or had a (p)remold.

They were all tail end of the movie line right? Wait were they before or after Classics and Friends Thundercracker?

Deep Dive was around the same time, and Strafe right before IIRC.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:20 PM

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When was the last time Hasbro did a repaint that was deluxe or bigger. I mean just repaint no new parts or alternate parts that were always part of the mold, that was also a different character from a previous use of the mold...


Comettor, Deep Dive, and Strafe were all last year.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

Do you mean the DotM Comettor that came in a 2-pack with a Prime, Walmart exclusive? That Comettor is a deluxe.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:32 PM

Right, and folks were discussing "Deluxe and bigger."

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:47 PM

Hmm, apparently I managed to read that as "bigger than a deluxe."

Walmart had some DotM exclusives in addition to Comettor... such as G2 Gobot Sideswipe.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ May 12 2012, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, apparently I managed to read that as "bigger than a deluxe."

Walmart had some DotM exclusives in addition to Comettor... such as G2 Gobot Sideswipe.

All the Wal-Mart Deluxe toys were same bot repaints so they don't count. Comettor does but he only came packer with a Voyager as an exclusive that Wal-Mart probably asked for. I bet the same thing happened with the Cybergliph Target toys too. The two biggest retailers said the wanted something exclusive so Hasbro jive out some easy yet interesting repaints.

So when did Hasbro do a mass market, not the same bot repaint in deluxe or bigger, outside the movie line?

I'm omitting the movie line because retailers demanded so much of it from Hasbro they they almost had to do repaints just to keep them happy.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:07 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ May 12 2012, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(gargunkle @ May 12 2012, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, apparently I managed to read that as "bigger than a deluxe."

Walmart had some DotM exclusives in addition to Comettor... such as G2 Gobot Sideswipe.

All the Wal-Mart Deluxe toys were same bot repaints so they don't count. Comettor does but he only came packer with a Voyager as an exclusive that Wal-Mart probably asked for. I bet the same thing happened with the Cybergliph Target toys too. The two biggest retailers said the wanted something exclusive so Hasbro jive out some easy yet interesting repaints.

So when did Hasbro do a mass market, not the same bot repaint in deluxe or bigger, outside the movie line?

I'm omitting the movie line because retailers demanded so much of it from Hasbro they they almost had to do repaints just to keep them happy.


Universe 2.0 - SilverBolt, Stormcloud, Prowl etc

Generations - Red Alert, Thundercracker, Bumblebee (but that's the same character and he doesn't really count)

RTS - Fallback

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:08 PM

Red Alert was retooled!

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE(NightViper @ May 12 2012, 07:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's should still be available on Jim Sorenson's site:
http://boltax.blogsp...mers-movie.html


Ah, thank you very much. I visit the site frequently, and I can't believe I forgot his was the one to have it...

Edit: Oh, slaggit... Mediafire says it's "temporarily unavailable." Hope that's fixed sooner than later...

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE(Dx3 @ May 12 2012, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Smitty @ May 12 2012, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(gargunkle @ May 12 2012, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, apparently I managed to read that as "bigger than a deluxe."

Walmart had some DotM exclusives in addition to Comettor... such as G2 Gobot Sideswipe.

All the Wal-Mart Deluxe toys were same bot repaints so they don't count. Comettor does but he only came packer with a Voyager as an exclusive that Wal-Mart probably asked for. I bet the same thing happened with the Cybergliph Target toys too. The two biggest retailers said the wanted something exclusive so Hasbro jive out some easy yet interesting repaints.

So when did Hasbro do a mass market, not the same bot repaint in deluxe or bigger, outside the movie line?

I'm omitting the movie line because retailers demanded so much of it from Hasbro they they almost had to do repaints just to keep them happy.


Universe 2.0 - SilverBolt, Stormcloud, Prowl etc

Generations - Red Alert, Thundercracker, Bumblebee (but that's the same character and he doesn't really count)

RTS - Fallback

Classics and Friends was never repainted. Silverstreak was, and the Classics and Friends Seeker mold was used and Thundercracker twice before it's use in Generations.

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 12 2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Red Alert was retooled!

Really? Oh right the light bar...

Edited by Smitty, 14 May 2012 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:12 AM

The lightbar and it's placement was even different from Henkei to Generations Red Alert, effectively making the backpack engine thing unmountable in robot mode (other than the gun).

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