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@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 06:29 PM)

So apparently the 2016 remake of "Instruments of Destruction" is out. I'm still waiting for an Amazon download to become available, but the clips I heard thus far sound cool. They're using the uncensored lyrics!

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 03:02 PM)

:(

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 September 2016 - 08:25 AM)

Sorry bebbeh, I'm taken.


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#561 Fnu Aw

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.

Not even villains. More like doofy obstacles.


So, exactly the G1 cartoon Dinobots.

The G1 cartoon Dinobots weren't so bad prior to season 3.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:20 PM

No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:44 PM

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.


Come on... it's not like the Dr Smoov parody in which he made them dumb on purpose. He didn't know how to make them smarter. Later, he gave them hats that tried to make them smarter but it was beyond his skill.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 14 2012, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.


Come on... it's not like the Dr Smoov parody in which he made them dumb on purpose. He didn't know how to make them smarter. Later, he gave them hats that tried to make them smarter but it was beyond his skill.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

I treat that video like it's canon.
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#567 Kalidor

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

I think a lot of people do. It was pretty brilliant icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:29 PM

My favorite is still Shockwave's burden.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:38 PM

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:02 PM

Comic dinobots weren't. Cartoon dinobots decided that the people they shouldn't kill were the ones with the same face as on their own chests. And half the time they didn't even get THAT right.

But they were far from useless. I thought they did particularly well in Arise, Atlantis, Arise!

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:21 PM

Dante, sometimes I wonder what version of the G1 cartoon you were watching.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:26 PM

I'm more curious about what version of Animated he's been watching... O.o

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:31 AM

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How many of the "other Autobots" wrecked Teletran-1 and had to go solely by insignia for threat identification?

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:34 AM

Yet another argument against rub signs:

If you wear one, the Dinobots will probably kill you.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 04:59 AM

Eh, I'd be a jerk too if I was made of junk.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:19 AM

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:45 AM

Me want Dinobots!

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:14 AM

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Perhaps tangential to the overall discussion, perhaps not... I speculated that perhaps the problem with Dinobots is that they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes.
I already pointed out that there are plenty of dinos in Transformers that the Dinobots could be repainted into. Overkill and Trypticon have been done, there there is Terrorsaur, Slugfest, and plenty of Dinosaur like monsters out there for retools of the Dinobots.
And once again, my thought was that the MOLDS could be the issue more than the colors they come in.

For the luvva Mike, you quoted me saying "they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes" and countered that with "they could repaint them into other characters".
Yeah but Hasbro has been putting alternate parts in the molds for figures for 6 years now. Why do you assume this would stop with new Dinobots?

A different robot head does not make a Tyrannosaurus not a Tyrannosaurus. Especially when packaged in alt mode.

The average customer is trained to see cars and planes in different colors as unique. Put U Sideswipe and Sunstreaker in front of them, and "he has the red car, but not the yellow car".
The average customer is not trained to see a dinosaur in different colors as unique. Put Grimlock and Overkill in front of them, and "doesn't he already have the T-Rex?"

Again, I'm speculating. I'll admit it. I'm not trained in marketing trends or privy to the studies that Hasbro (and/or other companies) perform when they say they can't bring the Dinobots to market. However, we all have a tendency to assume it's color-based and argue from there. I'm just tossing out the idea that maybe it's not the color of the dinosaurs, but the dinosaurs themselves. If this is the problem, no amount of repainting and alternate robot heads will fix it. Even media exposure would not necessarily allow for the normally-desired reuse potential.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM

So then remold the BEAST head!

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:19 AM

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Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.

Not even villains. More like doofy obstacles.


So, exactly the G1 cartoon Dinobots.

No, I wouldn't say that.


The G1 version were, at the end of the day, clearly Autobots, and they actually did fight Decepticons. And they were explicitly really good at it. I'm not amongst those who deny that the G1 Dinobots were about as a bright as a day-old glowstick, but they did get to kick some ass on multiple occasions.

Also, they all had voices, which kind of helps, too.

In Animated, most of what the Dinobots did was being whipped into obedience by villains that wouldn't have been enough of a threat on their own and proceed to be overcome with relative ease. That's what I mean when I call them "doofy obstacles".

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