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#561 Dante

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:05 PM

Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ May 15 2012, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(NICKSTART @ May 14 2012, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The whole idea that no kids would want more than one dinosaur transformer is ridiculous.


I... don't believe that was ever a major talking point in this thread.


So not releasing all five dinobots because they allegedly won't sell means people think kids really do want more than one dinosaur?


Let's not be obtuse here. The point was is that they might not want five dinosaurs strongly enough to overcome their parents' unwillingness and confusion regarding the purchase.

QUOTE(Dante @ May 15 2012, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.

Not even villains. More like doofy obstacles.

Edited by Creature SH, 14 May 2012 - 07:09 PM.


#563 Fnu Aw

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Fnu Aw @ May 14 2012, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's been suggested that Dinobots wouldn't sell well. I have a question. When was the last time the Dinobots were in a show and they didn't sell well? When has that happened?


Animated. Swoops and Snarls were plentiful even well after the line was officially finished.

Then again, pretty much every Animated toy was plentiful well after the line was officially finished. I still find them at TRU once in a while.
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You're turning into the real-life version of that little devil that hovers over people's shoulders and tells them to do horrible things. I'm not liking this development.

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Lesson of the day, when we go on some crazy quest, don't let Fnu Aw hold the Dues Ex Magical Artifact.

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Right, that's it. Tomorrow, I'm painting a giant pentagram on the floor, then buying a goat and sacrificing it to Fnu Aw, Lord of All Evil.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2012, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dante @ May 15 2012, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.

Not even villains. More like doofy obstacles.


So, exactly the G1 cartoon Dinobots.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2012, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ May 14 2012, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NICKSTART @ May 14 2012, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The whole idea that no kids would want more than one dinosaur transformer is ridiculous.


I... don't believe that was ever a major talking point in this thread.


So not releasing all five dinobots because they allegedly won't sell means people think kids really do want more than one dinosaur?


Let's not be obtuse here. The point was is that they might not want five dinosaurs strongly enough to overcome their parents' unwillingness and confusion regarding the purchase.


It's not even so much about the kids and the parents, as it's more about Hasbro having a strong enough case to appeal to the retailers, and their strict regulations gleaned from decades of market research and hand-tailoring their shopping environments for maximum profit.

Quite frankly, it all sounds like wishy-washy conjecture to me, let alone a global mega-corporation.

#566 Fnu Aw

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Dante @ May 15 2012, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Animated handled the Dinobots horribly which was my biggest complaint about the series. They took what is arguably the most iconic Autobot subgroup and made them into low-rent reoccurring villains who hardly got any screen time. Way to miss the point, guys.

Not even villains. More like doofy obstacles.


So, exactly the G1 cartoon Dinobots.

The G1 cartoon Dinobots weren't so bad prior to season 3.
QUOTE(Pocket @ Dec 26 2012, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're turning into the real-life version of that little devil that hovers over people's shoulders and tells them to do horrible things. I'm not liking this development.

QUOTE(Cabooceratops @ Feb 20 2013, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lesson of the day, when we go on some crazy quest, don't let Fnu Aw hold the Dues Ex Magical Artifact.

QUOTE(MyLittleEmpath @ Apr 14 2013, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, that's it. Tomorrow, I'm painting a giant pentagram on the floor, then buying a goat and sacrificing it to Fnu Aw, Lord of All Evil.

#567 Walky

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:20 PM

No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:44 PM

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.


Come on... it's not like the Dr Smoov parody in which he made them dumb on purpose. He didn't know how to make them smarter. Later, he gave them hats that tried to make them smarter but it was beyond his skill.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 14 2012, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.


Come on... it's not like the Dr Smoov parody in which he made them dumb on purpose. He didn't know how to make them smarter. Later, he gave them hats that tried to make them smarter but it was beyond his skill.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

I treat that video like it's canon.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

I think a lot of people do. It was pretty brilliant icon-hotrod.gif

#573 Fnu Aw

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:29 PM

My favorite is still Shockwave's burden.
QUOTE(Pocket @ Dec 26 2012, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're turning into the real-life version of that little devil that hovers over people's shoulders and tells them to do horrible things. I'm not liking this development.

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Lesson of the day, when we go on some crazy quest, don't let Fnu Aw hold the Dues Ex Magical Artifact.

QUOTE(MyLittleEmpath @ Apr 14 2013, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, that's it. Tomorrow, I'm painting a giant pentagram on the floor, then buying a goat and sacrificing it to Fnu Aw, Lord of All Evil.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:38 PM

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#575 Dante

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ May 14 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they kind of were. They were created because Spike Witwicky saw some dinosaur bones and so Wheeljack made some new dinosaur Autobots randomly and decided these giant war machines should be really dumb because real dinosaurs are dumb.

And so Wheeljack turns them on and the first thing they do is make a line to Teletraan I and destroy it.

So they lock them up in the closet because they're too dumb and powerful to live.

THE END.

The sequel: Later, they're so stupid that Megatron can get them to work for the Decepticons and hate the Autobots after maybe two whole sentences.

The other sequel: They're so dumb and hard to deal with the Autobots try to abandon them on an island.

If by "dumb" you mean "dangerous and antisocial." Sure. Also to be fair, it's hard to blame Grimlock for turning on Prime after Prime's treatment of him in their debut. They've integrated pretty well by the time of Ultimate Doom, so it's kind of weird the writers felt the need to revisit that aspect of their character arc in Season 2.

The Dinobots were, in general, no stupider than any other Autobot, despite their grammatically challenged vernacular. And in light of the plot of A Prime Problem I think that, barring Sludge who was actually confirmed to be dumb as a post by Soundwave, they're actually among the more intelligent members of the Season 1 cast.

Moreover, at least they have the capacity to learn from their mistakes, unlike the Animated Dinobots who never learn anything except how to be humiliatingly defeated offscreen to push an exclusive combiner that was so fugly it couldn't hack it as a normal Voyager release. Besides, even if they were actually dumb, well, at least they're not dumb AND bungholes like the Aerialbots.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:02 PM

Comic dinobots weren't. Cartoon dinobots decided that the people they shouldn't kill were the ones with the same face as on their own chests. And half the time they didn't even get THAT right.

But they were far from useless. I thought they did particularly well in Arise, Atlantis, Arise!

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:21 PM

Dante, sometimes I wonder what version of the G1 cartoon you were watching.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:26 PM

I'm more curious about what version of Animated he's been watching... O.o

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:31 AM

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The Dinobots were, in general, no stupider than any other Autobot, despite their grammatically challenged vernacular.


How many of the "other Autobots" wrecked Teletran-1 and had to go solely by insignia for threat identification?

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:34 AM

Yet another argument against rub signs:

If you wear one, the Dinobots will probably kill you.



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