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@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 06:34 AM)

Not even close.

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 05:51 AM)

What, Mayhem isn't random enough???

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 04:02 AM)

This place never feels random enough in that respect.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:10 AM)

I thought that was snarking at random strangers without fear of retribution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:22 PM)

Topic-specific threads are the main feature of messageboards like this, you know.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:21 PM)

You should ask that in the TFWiki thread.

@  tffan01 : (24 July 2016 - 07:21 PM)

watch?v=94l4qCKMYZ0  

@  tffan01 : (24 July 2016 - 07:18 PM)

there's a pewdiepie video promoting Transformers Earth Wars and it is an official promotion video, does this mean he should get a tfwiki page?

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 July 2016 - 07:01 PM)

I thought King Kong '05 was pretty great! I just wish I hadn't watched it as a double feature with that movie about the island with the giant bugs.

@  tffan01 : (24 July 2016 - 04:46 PM)

yeah it was long as hell, it took me several days to finish it.

@  Paladin : (24 July 2016 - 11:58 AM)

maybe this new one won't take half a day to watch all the way through...

@  tffan01 : (24 July 2016 - 11:00 AM)

I believe this new Kong movie will not be as good as the 2005 one.


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#401 Shockwave 75

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ May 5 2012, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd probably feel bad about a duplicate. Wrong toy though? "Oh, you don't want it? We can give it to your sister."

I see what you're saying, and I partially agree. If a kid is given a toy as a gift they should be grateful no matter what it is, but the idea is still valid. If a kid got a toy he did want/like they caould always return it for exchange.



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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:19 PM

But to return to the point, I'm saying that a marketing department is going to want to lower the bar for differentiation as much as possible. The reasons for doing so are not necessarily "the lowest common denominator" like quite a few folks in this thread seem to be insinuating, but simply that the average parent probably doesn't care quite that much.

As a kid, I just got whatever Transformers my mom could find--I didn't get specific figures until I started buying them myself.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 5 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ May 4 2012, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 4 2012, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Besides, what's the big deal if a parent accidentally buys the wrong one?

The problem isn't that parents can't tell them apart so they buy the wrong one.

The problem is that parents can't tell them apart so they buy one and then never buy any of the others because they're 100% confident their kid already has the gray and gold dinosaur.

No, the problem is you conveniently left out the rest of the paragraph you quoted, especially the very next sentence:

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 4 2012, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....The kid will know the difference instantly. That's what reciepts are for! Just return it for the right one. And by-and-large, likely the only time that a parent/adult would be toy shopping for a kid without said kid being with them, would be at X-Mas or for their birthday, or any similar special occasion.


Mommy comes home and says "Here, Billy. This is the one you wanted right?"
"No, Mom, that's Slag! I already have him, see. I need to get Snarl, the stegosaurus."
"Ok, well we'll go back tomorrow and see if they have the right one. ok?"


It's not as if said parent is not going to try and get their kid the right toy. You make it seem as if people will go and buy only one figure, and the kid be dammed if he already has it, or it's not the right one.
This is why stores have return policies in the first place.

Did... did you read my post before posting your reply?

Did you read it at all?

The thing you are assuring me will not be a problem is the thing I said was not the problem.

The thing I said was a problem, you have completely ignored.

Seriously, did you read what I said before you argued with it?

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#404 Shockwave 75

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:18 AM

Yeah, I did. And it's completely negated by the very next sentence in my post.

Let the parents be 100% positive that they're buying the right one. Their kids will instantly let them know if they've bought the wrong one. Their kids will likely have let them know that there are in fact 5 different Dinobots before they even went shopping!

And, it occurs to me today, something that seems to have been neglected; this "parent problem" was really only viable 15 - 20 years ago when TF's were basically new.
I'll admit that back in the day my parents probably couldn't point out Blitzwing from Bumblebee, but they hadn't been educated on the differences either.
Today's kids likely have parents who grew up with Transformers. Even the ones who haven't really given a second thought to TF's since they hit puberty will not be 100% clueless when they're in that toy aisle. And, especially if they are of the G1 era, they will likely recognise many, if not most of the TF names that are currently in rotation. They may look different than the way they did when they were kids, but I'm sure the basic look and colour schemes of the Dinobots would seriously jog their memories.

Edited by Shockwave 75, 06 May 2012 - 09:18 AM.



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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 6 2012, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They may look different than the way they did when they were kids, but I'm sure the basic look and colour schemes of the Dinobots would seriously jog their memories.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

I fear I must echo Walky's laughter, and add in a hearty "Yeah, right".

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:26 AM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 6 2012, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I did. And it's completely negated by the very next sentence in my post.

Let the parents be 100% positive that they're buying the right one. Their kids will instantly let them know if they've bought the wrong one. Their kids will likely have let them know that there are in fact 5 different Dinobots before they even went shopping!

"...but it looks like they still only have this one here." Not completely negated.

Hell, only finally directly addressed now, rather than in the previous post, and even now I almost missed it because you tucked the relevance into a seeming afterthought. Don't expect me to connect the dots when you haven't actually provided the dots.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ May 5 2012, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mommy comes home and says "Here, Billy. This is the one you wanted right?"
"No, Mom, that's Slag! I already have him, see. I need to get Snarl, the stegosaurus."
"Ok, well we'll go back tomorrow and see if they have the right one. ok?"


It's not as if said parent is not going to try and get their kid the right toy. You make it seem as if people will go and buy only one figure, and the kid be dammed if he already has it, or it's not the right one.
This is why stores have return policies in the first place.

My mother would have never done this. She would either told me "No you already have that one", or just taken me to the store and let me pick out the one I wanted then questioned if I already had that one if it look familiar to her.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:17 PM

You're acting as if parenting is on some evolutionary scale where each generation is better than the last at picking out their children's toys.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:25 PM

I guess I should just be happy that my parents weren't idiots and could comprehend the words I had written on my Christmas list or trusted me enough when they said "pick out the one you want" that I myself wasn't an idiot and wouldn't buy I toy I already owned.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:06 PM

All my Christmas toys were bought by my grandparents. Which is good, because grandparents really do have nothing else in their lives other than trying to comprehend some 8-year-old's scrawlings. Parents, not so much.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ May 6 2012, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're acting as if parenting is on some evolutionary scale where each generation is better than the last at picking out their children's toys.

Why shouldn't they be? Anybody who is now a parent and had grown up in the "toy culture" of the 80's, and pays any kind of attention to the things that interest their kids (as any good parent should), should have some kind of toy acumen.

My parents (both born in the 50's) grew up before there really were all kinds of toys like we had in the 80's. There the 12 inch Joes, Barbies (and the like), and then lots of tin/wooden toys. The action figure as we know it really didn't exist, and the very idea of a huge store brimming with toys was a completely foreign concept.
This is the only reason I got a Grapple when I was a kid. I didn't want Grappel! But the person who bought it for me really didn't see the difference between one car-that-turns-into-a-robot and another. This is also likely why many of us got GoBots rather than TF's as gifts.

But now that we who were born in the mid/late 70's and on are becoming parents, we grew up with a wide plethora of different toy options. The only parents of this generation who are totally ignorant of the differences between one toy and another are either willfully so, or are of the mind-set "I didn't have all this stuff growing up so why does my kid need it?".

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 6 2012, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I should just be happy that my parents weren't idiots and could comprehend the words I had written on my Christmas list or trusted me enough when they said "pick out the one you want" that I myself wasn't an idiot and wouldn't buy I toy I already owned.

This!

And now-a-days kids don't just have to write a list of the toys they want. These computer-age kids can make a list with actual pictures of the toys! So the only possible reason for the toy-buyer to get the wrong thing are either horrible inbreeding, or the ONE store they went to didn't have anything on the list and they didn't want to leave empty handed.

My point still stands. If Hasbro would put the DB's in the show, and make them cool; rather than just another bunch of non-show toys on the shelf, the kids will want them.



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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:27 PM

My parents weren't stupid about things back then, and they ran around all sorts of places to get me stuff.

I'm just mystified that someone at the corporate level thinks kids won't want to have an army of robot dinosaurs.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:37 PM

Do kids even like dinosaurs anymore? They're at nowhere near the level of toy saturation that they were back in the 80's and 90's. EVERY toyline back in those days found a way to work dinosaurs into it. Now? Kids care more about their fake-dino Whatevermons and Bakumans.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ May 6 2012, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're acting as if parenting is on some evolutionary scale where each generation is better than the last at picking out their children's toys.

With today's nostalgia based toy lines it is. I look down a Wal-Mart toy section and I see Thundercats, Transformers, Marvel Heroes, and G.I. Joe just to name a few. Even for some one that is not as into toys as I am it's not hard to know who their kid wants when he says "I want Panthro".

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ May 6 2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do kids even like dinosaurs anymore? They're at nowhere near the level of toy saturation that they were back in the 80's and 90's. EVERY toyline back in those days found a way to work dinosaurs into it. Now? Kids care more about their fake-dino Whatevermons and Bakumans.


Oh they do. IF there was more saturation there would be even more dinosaur fans. There's this over brimming idea that they're ridiculous, I guess? I have no idea why dinosaurs have been backed off of, but kids do like em.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ May 6 2012, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My parents weren't stupid about things back then, and they ran around all sorts of places to get me stuff.


My mom and Grandmom would go to great lenths to get me what I wanted. One of my mom's favorite stories is her trying to find the Ghostbuster Firehouse, becuase I had apparently told her "It's okay if you can't find it, Santa will bring me one!" which sent her into a big panic. She had all her co-workers even look for if one came in to tell her immediately. She did eventually find one. She may not have known what everything was, but if I told her I wanted something for birthday or christmas; she did her damnedest to get me it.

Parent's aren't totally ignorant, unless they just really don't care that much about their kids. Kids aren't stupid either. If a kid lets them know what they want, a parent will try to get it, they will reach out to friends and family members letting them know "hey this is what my child wants, could you help me find it?". I've seen this with every branch of my family (Not a small family by any means) and my friend's families as well growing up. Very few kids will get everything, but a smart attentive parent will know their kids know what they have and don't have and will pay attention to a list a child gives them or when they point out stuff in the store.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:31 PM

Evidently the turtle van was a huge endeavor and I never knew until I was in high school the mad scramble that caused.

And you're right. Every kid won't get everything, but that doesn't mean their parent or caretaker didn't know what to look for.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:54 PM

It was so easy in the Beast Wars days when the toys were entirely different species. It was so easy to tell parents what to get. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:15 PM

I'm not saying that parents are either morons or horrible. But I think we're talking about different things. I'm leaning on the side of impulse buys, with the recognition that the only times my mom wanted to make SURE I got what I wanted was my birthday and maybe Christmas. That leaves 10 months of the year when it was nice if I got a toy, but be damned if I told my mom EXACTLY what I wanted. Maybe my background is just different, but any kid who is able to do so on a regular basis just sounds really entitled to me.

So I find all this stuff about "the parents don't care about their kids" or "they're inbreeding" to be horribly offensive. I have wonderful, loving, attentive parents who also gave half a hug what toys I wanted. I sure as hell don't remember asking for Scattershot or Twintwist or Runabout, but that's what I got. You guys are projecting what you would be like as parents (and I understand that some of you are even like that as parents, which is commendable), and that's understandable, but I'm looking at my parents and the random parents I meet at Target who are pretty clueless about toys and it just seems like a confirmation bias of being around a bunch of other die-hard fans to say that parents are getting better at picking out toys for their kids.



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