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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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2013 Club Exclusives discussion - Scourge


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:38 PM

excited. but this means now i have a classics optimus and rts optimus as custom fodder for nothing (scrapped classics prime as scourge when they made sdcc nemesis prime). but hopefully he's the free figure

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

I forsee a lot of complaints that Hasbro isn't making this repaint in the main line. It seems like an obvious repaint choice from Hasbro. Plus this means the club is making three recolors of this mold (SG Magnus, SG Optimus and RiD Scourge), which is a lot of repaints for a not-Seeker mold.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

At this point, I'm really, really over "Evil Optimus" repaints. Even with a new head.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

So long as Hasbro does some kind of Nemesis Prime (even/especially with Crystal Skull), I'll be ok. It's not like a hasbro release was going specifically be Scourge/have the upside-down G2 logo anyway.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Apr 27 2012, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Saw this on tfw2005. Pics will come Saturday. Scourge will be a repaint of Reveal the Shield Optimus Prime obviously.

You obviously don't follow our Twitter (I tweeted it 3 hours ago) or looked a the other thread where I mentioned it.
http://twitter.com/A...948615187963904

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

YES YES YES

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

It stands to reason that whatever hasbro has planned for the RTS Laser Prime mold includes the skeletor head, So Id rather my Scourge have a prime head.

I hear a lot of chatter of people thinking that Scourge will be the freebie, on account that this is the clubs way of apologising to the members for the CC snafu.

I, however belive it will not be the freebie, and will be one of the ones we buy. Simply because A: Those of us who want it (me included) are more than willing to pay through the nose to get it, and B: We've seen what may very well be packaging art.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE(ssg4life @ Apr 27 2012, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
excited. but this means now i have a classics optimus and rts optimus as custom fodder for nothing (scrapped classics prime as scourge when they made sdcc nemesis prime). but hopefully he's the free figure

I would be really surprised if he was the free figure.
Considering how much of a fan favorite he is I think they wouldn't have any trouble with him selling out.


Personally, I'm still waiting for the G2 Ultra Magnus version of the mold.

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 27 April 2012 - 06:54 PM.



#10 Razorsaw

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

G2 Ultra Magnus... whaaaat

Oh. Now I remember.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Apr 27 2012, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I forsee a lot of complaints that Hasbro isn't making this repaint in the main line. It seems like an obvious repaint choice from Hasbro. Plus this means the club is making three recolors of this mold (SG Magnus, SG Optimus and RiD Scourge), which is a lot of repaints for a not-Seeker mold.


*shrug*

They just released 3 versions of the RtS Jazz mold at the 'Con, so it's not like mold-reuse is a foreign thing to them.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Apr 27 2012, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
G2 Ultra Magnus... whaaaat

Oh. Now I remember.

Sorry, I could have said E-hobby, but that might get people thinking of Alternity toy.


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:24 PM

Yeah, I still want G2 Magnus from this mold too.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

Auuuugh, I really didn't want to have to pay over 50 bucks for this...

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE(SeanPrime64 @ Apr 27 2012, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Auuuugh, I really didn't want to have to pay over 50 bucks for this...


Same here.

By way of comparison, I paid $40 for my textbook for next semester.

Yeah - I'm just buying a Prime off of E-Bay and introducing it to that giant bottle of black paint I bought but never got around to using.* It'd be a heck of a lot cheaper, and I wouldn't have to go to the hassle of trying to get a pre-paid credit card just to register and pay for everything.





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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:36 PM

Dangit, I want it, but not 50$ want it...shoot...

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

I agree with others, I want him, but not $50 want. Especially with a mold I don't really like and I still have the original RiD release.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:53 PM

To quote Daniel Bryan...

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:57 PM

I too can live without this, original Scourge is a far superior mold compared to this puny little thing.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

If RID Scourge is the incentive freebie, then I'm selling him.

If he's one of the guys that's being sold through the club store next year, then that's fine and excellent. But I won't be getting him.


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