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@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 03:54 PM)

Damn zoning laws.

@  OrionPax44 : (05 May 2016 - 03:53 PM)

All this zoning is starting to cross the line here.

@  Rycochet : (05 May 2016 - 03:34 PM)

Earth's most powerful soldiers are earth's last chance against the Spiral Zone!

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 03:31 PM)

RANDOM ZOOOOOOONE!

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 03:24 PM)

Want to buy car parts and hope they actually give you the right ones? Head to Auto Zone.

@  The Doctor Who : (05 May 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Want to build a shop and don't know where it's legal? Go to the Commercial Zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM)

Careful with these jokes, they could lead us right into the Danger Zone.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (05 May 2016 - 03:20 PM)

You're running to make a touchdown, when suddenly, you hear Linkin Park - In The End Zone.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (05 May 2016 - 03:17 PM)

The Princess of Friendship's secret dungeon - the Twilight Zone.

@  The Doctor Who : (05 May 2016 - 03:14 PM)

When you go to bed at 10, wake up at 6 and only get seven hours sleep? You just got Time Zoned!

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 03:11 PM)

what's with this checkered orange dirt? why are there crab robots here? oh dammit I got green hill zoned again

@  Puny Flesh C... : (05 May 2016 - 02:18 PM)

I actually thought about changing my username to'Captain Friendzone' - cos it's ironic yeah? ;)

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 01:47 PM)

@Paladin: Yep, that's what a friendzone is.

@  Locoman : (05 May 2016 - 01:00 PM)

I knew someone who got put in the calzone by a girl. Tomato sauce burns are no laughing matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 12:57 PM)

If you leave your mass graves open for random people to lie naked in, you're doing it wrong.

@  Paladin : (05 May 2016 - 12:53 PM)

isn't "friendzone" a made-up thing creepers use to comfort themselves when they get shot down by women who wouldn't willingly lie naked with them in a mass grave?

@  The Predaking : (05 May 2016 - 12:49 PM)

"You need to give up climbing that tree. That tree is so far gone, that it is cut down, made into 2X4s and it now a coat closet in Dallas."

@  The Predaking : (05 May 2016 - 12:48 PM)

I was discussing with my co-worker about him getting out of the friend zone with this girl:

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I smell BACON! BACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACON IT'S BACONNNNN!

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 12:12 PM)

I'm not. I wallow in your misery.

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 11:58 AM)

Yeah, so ham I.

@  OrionPax44 : (05 May 2016 - 11:20 AM)

Let me just say ahead of time that I'm suey for the pun

@  Steevy Maximus : (05 May 2016 - 10:44 AM)

I'm sure some are squealing with delight

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 10:40 AM)

Great, a bacon pun. Now people making pig puns will hog the chatbox.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 02:20 AM)

I herd puns in here, what's the situbacon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (05 May 2016 - 01:30 AM)

You've caused a stampede.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 11:22 PM)

Truly moooving things, Foffy.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (04 May 2016 - 11:16 PM)

What have I done?

@  unluckiness : (04 May 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Don't have a cow, man.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 11:07 PM)

Dude, calm down! What's your beef man?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 May 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Are you so sure about that? I don't think you've considered what's at steak here.

@  MidnightFox : (04 May 2016 - 10:56 PM)

No need to buffalo anyone.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Is that all it takes for you to cowtow? Aren't you going to try and milk it a bit more?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (04 May 2016 - 10:36 PM)

On second thought, I'm just going to hoof it out of here.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 10:32 PM)

What sort of udderance is that?

@  unluckiness : (04 May 2016 - 10:31 PM)

MOO

@  Patchouli Kn... : (04 May 2016 - 10:26 PM)

Can I shepherd us to a different topic?

@  wonko the sane? : (04 May 2016 - 10:19 PM)

Ewe got that right.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 10:18 PM)

Not to ram the joke into the ground or anything, right?

@  wonko the sane? : (04 May 2016 - 10:18 PM)

Bad jokes abound, wollen you know it.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 09:55 PM)

Face it, Smokey, there's mutton you can do about it.

@  Smokey : (04 May 2016 - 08:51 PM)

Stop with the baaaad puns.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (04 May 2016 - 08:32 PM)

Positively woolish.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (04 May 2016 - 08:20 PM)

Well now, don't you feel sheepish?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (04 May 2016 - 08:05 PM)

That was meant to be a status update, not a shout. Oops.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (04 May 2016 - 08:03 PM)

Humor is the condiment you use to get the bad taste of life out of your mouth.

@  OrionPax44 : (04 May 2016 - 04:52 PM)

I try to raise my kids right.

@  MEDdMI : (04 May 2016 - 01:15 PM)

:D Nice, OP

@  OrionPax44 : (04 May 2016 - 11:38 AM)

My kids made a desert full of Graboids in Minecraft this past weekend. Including paintings of people in the mouths.

@  Robowang : (03 May 2016 - 08:09 PM)

Put a wombat up ya wanker, moit.


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#41 TM2-Megatron

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2012, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So participating in the discussion from a viewpoint differing from yours and tacking on a joke (because I've never been known to joke around at all ever in the history of the Allspark) is taking it personally.

Noted. Thanks for telling me my opinion.


I don't really care whether someone uses it or not; as I said earlier it's mostly a matter of preference. But whether someone likes it or not has nothing to do with being a "grumpy old man"; but if that was a joke, fine. You'd be surprised how similar that comment is to ones in A/V forums when threads on this particular technology (motion interpolation, not 48fps filming) degenerates, as they do without fail.

But if what you want is ideal picture quality on Blu-Rays films, specifically, what you should have is a plasma. Even putting the black levels aside, their subfield drives allows them to actually display 24fps or 48fps or whatever natively; they can work in multiples of 24. On LCDs, you can't do that. They're a fixed-framerate technology, and all you can do is adjust the way in which the TV displays (or manipulates, in the case of TruMotion) the frames that are sent to it, whether that's 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, etc. I own LCDs, too, as they're just more convenient and I can live with the picture; but they're more of a stopgap until OLEDs are affordable and finally put plasma down for good.

What I want to know is when they're going to adjust the Blu-Ray standard to allow for 1080p/48, and if that willl require a new round of players or if it will be possible just via a firmware update. I doubt filming at 48fps is going to become all that commonplace in the immediate future, but Blu-Ray should be updated as soon as possible so that we can get these movies at home as close to the way they were shot as possible. 48fps is useless if you can only benefit at the theatre (though I do still enjoy the theatre in a way my living room can't recreate).

QUOTE(Aberration @ Apr 25 2012, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This concerns me... I already have to jump through hoops to find 2D showings (well, that's overstating it, but basically, the theaters near me will usually have the first showing of the day in 2D, and that's it), and now I have to factor framerate into that too. Hopefully Fandango will be diligent about sorting it out.


I'm hoping it becomes the trend to advertise whether a showing is 24 or 48fps. Most theatres around here already have a particular branding they give to movies projected in Digital 4k, so I don't see why they shouldn't want to advertise the fact when something is projected @ 48fps, too.

Edited by TM2-Megatron, 25 April 2012 - 05:51 PM.


#42 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:11 PM

Ah, yeah. This is not an A/V forum. We're not half as up tight.

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#43 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

Eh, I play 60FPS games all the time.

This is going to matter to me about as much as the 3D thing IE not at all.

Like if you went to hell, and it was full of blood, and that blood was on fire, and it was raining blood, then maybe that would be enough blood! Eh… but probably not.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Apr 26 2012, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, I play 60FPS games all the time.

Is it true that they overheat graphic cards?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Apr 26 2012, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Apr 26 2012, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, I play 60FPS games all the time.

Is it true that they overheat graphic cards?


Not unless your computer lacks a fan or is wrapped in a carpet.

Like if you went to hell, and it was full of blood, and that blood was on fire, and it was raining blood, then maybe that would be enough blood! Eh… but probably not.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

I'm more concerned with how CGI studios will deal with it. They render per frame, after all, so doubling the frames doubles the render time, which slows down production or incurs the cost of extra render farms.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Apr 25 2012, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm more concerned with how CGI studios will deal with it. They render per frame, after all, so doubling the frames doubles the render time, which slows down production or incurs the cost of extra render farms.

This. If they thought the Transformers were setting computers on fire now...
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 24 2012, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True motion tends to make things look like they're moving more fluidly but it's still 2-D so it comes off as just odd. And when the frame rate is already low such as with none bluray movies it looks extra odd when the camera pans side to side as that tends to have a better frame rate than the film itself. If you're not used to it the effect can be jarring.
I expect it's really uncomfortable for those prone to motion sickness but I'm not one of those people so I'm just guessing.


This reminds me...the only show I've seen that just looks WEIRD to me is NCIS. Especially any time they pan. Something is just...strange. It looks really clear on other people's TVs...almost like "HD home video footage," or like I'm really seeing the people. But the panning is...weird.

Is that what the Trumotion thing is? Maybe I just don't have mine turned on and that's why my HD looks worse than others' HD? Or the ones in the stores?

Also, if I don't have any manuals, how do I find out if I have Trumotion or some equivilent? I have a Samsung 50" from about 5 years ago.

EDIT: This post coupled with me trying to hook up a DVD player in our bedroom and realizing the TV doesn't even have AV jacks is making me feel really old, and I'm only 30.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE(Robowang @ Apr 26 2012, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This reminds me...the only show I've seen that just looks WEIRD to me is NCIS. Especially any time they pan. Something is just...strange. It looks really clear on other people's TVs...almost like "HD home video footage," or like I'm really seeing the people. But the panning is...weird.

That's because of 'digital panning'. It's when you're shot is too wide and the editor has to 'digitally pan the camera' over to the main focus.

A horrible example of it is the 4:3 version of 'Multiplicity'.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:34 PM

Although 24fps under the effects of motion interpolation can look a lot like digital panning some of the time ('cuz it almost is, if you think about it in a certain way), and that's one of the things I find most annoying about it.

QUOTE(Robowang @ Apr 26 2012, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that what the Trumotion thing is? Maybe I just don't have mine turned on and that's why my HD looks worse than others' HD? Or the ones in the stores?

Also, if I don't have any manuals, how do I find out if I have Trumotion or some equivilent? I have a Samsung 50" from about 5 years ago.


Samsung calls it "Auto Motion Plus", so that's what you'll want to look for in your TV's menus (usually somewhere in the Picture/Image area, and sometimes under an 'Advanced Settings' header), but if your TV is 5 years old it may just be a regular 60Hz set, and not capable of it. A model number would settle it. LG must be the most commonly owned brand by far, as its branding for motion interpolation has apparently come closest to being a generic term (TruMotion).

There's only one reason I really bought a 120Hz (and later, a 240Hz) since I never enable motion interpolation: 5:5 pulldown (though even on a 120Hz set, you need to make sure it's been programmed for it; not all are). A 60Hz set can't handle 24fps without 3:2 pulldown, which can be irritating, but 120Hz allows for an even frame cadence at 5 repeats per frame. A true 240Hz set should also allow for display of 48fps content with 5:5 pulldown, but unless it's a current model I wouldn't count on firmware updates for such functionality being forthcoming. They'll want people to buy new TVs.

Edited by TM2-Megatron, 26 April 2012 - 05:58 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE(skankerzero @ Apr 26 2012, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A horrible example of it is the 4:3 version of 'Multiplicity'.


lol, that was the first movie I ever noticed it in, now I see it everytime I crack out an old VHS. It's like someone sliding your Netflix window slowly to the right and left.



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