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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#21 CORVUS

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:32 PM

Fair enough.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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#22 DarkeklawGW

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:35 PM

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Most Soaps aren't filmed on Film anymore they are filmed on video tape or digital because it's a faster turn around to the editing room.

It's also much, much, much, MUCH cheaper. Filmstock tends to run hundreds of dollars per inch, IIRC.

Well that too, also a weekly show can spend more money on film because they aren't taping for a five day a week run like most soaps do. Daytime dramas don't do reruns the stories are continous so the need for cheap, fast, recordable stock is much more important than it is on a show that runs once a week doing anywhere from 12 to 26 episodes in a season.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:16 AM

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In the opening minutes, I thought to myself "this looks like the TV department when they turn on 120Hz or TruMotion or whatever they call it". At once, it really doesn?t look like that. The smooth motion clarity is similar, but the 120Hz TV setting is the TV inventing visual information to fill in loads of completely nonexistent frames, creating the bulljive garbage you see walking through most TV departments in stores. Again, there is an element that 48fps and TruMotion share (which is where the comparison comes from), but 48 fps does not simply ?look like Korean soap operas? or TruMotion-enhanced TV images. That?s a reductive, sensationalist, utterly bulljive equivocation.

yes, i want to take basebats to those tv's.

#24 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 04:35 AM

I'm not especially good with resolution and frames per second and all that stuff, so forgive me if this comes off as woefully ignorant... because it probably is.

But with video games, I see a lot of talk about 60 frames per second and all being... well, people seem to treat it like the norm, and anything less is some sort of affront to humanity, or something.

So, if frames per second in movies are approaching 60 with this, does this mean that movies are going to somehow look more like some video games?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:49 AM

TrueMotion and such are trash, because it's not magically creating new frames, it's just making jive up for between frames. Comparing that to this is like comparing upscalling a DVD to Blu-Ray, a comparison which has no validity.

As for 48fps, I don't think I need to even see it to say I think it's a good idea. It's giving me a more accurate view of what's going on. If it looks "fake" it's because my brain is made stupid by 24fps movies. It's closer to reality, so it's better. The "look" of cinema is an illusion created by the limitations of 24fps film technology.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Apr 24 2012, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh good, I'm not the only one who hates that "Soap Opera effect" from the TruMotion feature on new TVs. It just looks unnatural. The effect of 24FPS is so commonplace that it's literally ingrained in my mind as part of the cinematic feeling.

Although I really do wonder how true 48FPS differs. I somehow doubt it looks as blatantly artificial as TruMotion.



Yea, that effect is horrific. There's also an issue of anything that has been rendered digitally. Digital rendering is still done 1 frame at a time, and any motion blur is a result of 24 fps and looks fairly natural. When you falsely accelerate things using these terrible functions, suddenly that gorgeous digital effect looks like a cheap knock off of a Harryhausen effect got slapped into your movie.

I despise the feature as it is now, but I have no objection to seeing what a properly and purposefully made 48fps can look like.

As long as it's not 3d, because HUG the JIVE out of 3d.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:13 AM

I can't wait.

I've hated 24fps ever since I took my film class back in the late 90s. Once it was pointed out to me, that's all I could see.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 24 2012, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It will make old 24fps look as bad as SD.

So what you're saying is, I'll still think 24fps looks fine, and proponents of 48fps will take this as a personal affront.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

I look forward to seeing this be implemented.


Now if we can get 48 fps 3D....

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE(Zek @ Apr 25 2012, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now if we can get 48 fps 3D....


You do. "The Hobbit" is going to be made available to exhibitors in 2D 24/48fps and 3D 24/48fps.
Yep.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:19 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Apr 25 2012, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 24 2012, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It will make old 24fps look as bad as SD.

So what you're saying is, I'll still think 24fps looks fine, and proponents of 48fps will take this as a personal affront.

I agree with ▲ndrusi.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


#32 Cybersnark

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:52 PM

Me too, actually. And I work in film/TV/new media.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 25 2012, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Zek @ Apr 25 2012, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now if we can get 48 fps 3D....


You do. "The Hobbit" is going to be made available to exhibitors in 2D 24/48fps and 3D 24/48fps.


Well then! Looks like I shall be enjoying The Hobbit then!

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

Don't wanna movies with TV studio feel.
CGI effects will suffer the most as they will look even faker with bigger frame rate (unnatural motion becoming more obvious).

Edited by D.M, 25 April 2012 - 05:08 PM.


#35 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:09 PM

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2012, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TruMotion or whatever else it is called sucks because it's making up frames to fill in between the real ones. 48fps is the future unlike 3D. It will make old 24fps look as bad as SD.

30fps didn't made 24fps look bad, so why should this?
In fact, I'm not sure if anyone will be able to tell the difference between 30fps and 48fps.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2012, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome to the Allspark!
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Or just differing opinions. Honestly, you're taking the dislike of TruMotion/MotionFlow/AquoMotion/etc. pretty personally. It's just a cheapo DSP algorithm on a chip somewhere in your TV; its feelings aren't going to be hurt, lol.

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#38 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 24 2012, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
THANK GOD!
Every time I see a movie I like I think to myself, "I can't wait to get this on Bluray so it'll look better and I can see everything more clearly."
I welcome this change wholeheartedly.



QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 24 2012, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because you don't own one. When I got my TV it was so odd yet with Bluray movies it was transfixing. It took me a while to get used to it but once I did I was in love.
Of course I adjust the framerate depending on what I'm watching, that only makes sense.

Believe me, watching the right stuff in the comfort of your home is grand. It makes going to the movies a tad lamer.



QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 24 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So much hate.
*shrugs and goes back to enjoying his TV*



QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 24 2012, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True motion tends to make things look like they're moving more fluidly but it's still 2-D so it comes off as just odd. And when the frame rate is already low such as with none bluray movies it looks extra odd when the camera pans side to side as that tends to have a better frame rate than the film itself. If you're not used to it the effect can be jarring.
I expect it's really uncomfortable for those prone to motion sickness but I'm not one of those people so I'm just guessing.



QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2012, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome to the Allspark!
We have grumpy old men!

So participating in the discussion from a viewpoint differing from yours and tacking on a joke (because I've never been known to joke around at all ever in the history of the Allspark) is taking it personally.

Noted. Thanks for telling me my opinion.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 25 2012, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Zek @ Apr 25 2012, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now if we can get 48 fps 3D....


You do. "The Hobbit" is going to be made available to exhibitors in 2D 24/48fps and 3D 24/48fps.

This concerns me... I already have to jump through hoops to find 2D showings (well, that's overstating it, but basically, the theaters near me will usually have the first showing of the day in 2D, and that's it), and now I have to factor framerate into that too. Hopefully Fandango will be diligent about sorting it out.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:39 PM

I've learned to not blindly go to a showing of a movie as friend has picked out lest I end up watching John carter in 3-D again... ugh.
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