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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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How Matt Tieger Saved the Dinobots


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#41 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 24 2012, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Apr 24 2012, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off topic: Do space t-Rexes have hand lasers or are they reserved for classics Kup?

Hand-Lasers are indeed reserved for Classics Kup. However, Space T-Rexes DO send the books.

Brawn does it, too.

(Mudflap doesn't, but he's still epic.)

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#42 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Apr 24 2012, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Apr 24 2012, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This whole idea that Hasbro retired the Dinobots is highly dubious. It sounds like the kind of thing a third string Hasbro marketing person spouts off in a side interview at a convention one time, and then two years later when Hasbro announces the new line of Target exclusive Masterpiece Dinobots people are saying "hey, remember when they retired the Dinobots? What happened with that?"

The only consistent rule with Transformers is Hasbro is going to do whatever they feel like and view as likely to be profitable. They can say all they want about what's retired but unless it's a legally prompted decision (a la reissues not passing drop tests), anything they say about permanent decisions is meaningless.


Heck, take a look at G. I. Joe.

In 1987, they had the original Cobra Commander get shot in the back by a traitor.

In 1990, he returned, re-took control of Cobra, ordered the traitor buried alive, and for good measure ordered a number of suspected co-conspirators buried alive with him.

Ca. 1992, they had it that two of the people who were buried alive, Zartan and Billy, somehow managed to escape... just in time for Zartan to get a new figure release.

That same year, they revealed that a third guy, Firefly, faked his death and also managed to escape... thereby giving the writers a chance to show off his new figure as well.

Oh, and the next year a fourth guy, Dr. Mindbender, got cloned because CC decided that he actually did need his resident mad scientist after all. Cue new figure.

And now I hear that Sneak-Peak, a Joe who bought it in 1991 when he got mowed down by a Cobra heavy weapons team, is now alive and well in the IDW continuation of the series.

Yeah.

None of which has an relevance to this topic at all.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

Rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiight.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:47 PM

Having gotten to sit down and talk with Matt many times (A few times in the bar) I can tell you that his passion for the characters and this franchise is genuine.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

I don't think that part was ever in question.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Apr 24 2012, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Having gotten to sit down and talk with Matt many times (A few times in the bar) I can tell you that his passion for the characters and this franchise is genuine.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

Somebody had to save them.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

I think I've solved the issue Some of us are having...

I give you TIME AND SPACE T-REX!



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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

I just assumed "retired" meant that Hasbro had no ideas on how to use the Dinobots in upcoming fiction, so it was up to Tieger and crew to come up with something compelling.

After all, nothing's REALLY off the table.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

From the article it sounds like the dinobots were off-limits as just throw-away character models, store exclusives, cameos etc. So, kudos to Hasbro for valuing the integrity of the universe they're establishing.

I think the Hasbro reps Tieger spoke with raised good points. It doesn't make sense for Dinobots to be, well, Dinobots in a world that has never been exposed to Earth. It sounds like they liked the general pitch, and understood why the characters were useful mechanically, but they needed a sound reason for them to exist in that form.

It's all there in the article. Tieger builds a back story from previously established material and boom! The whole story arc is more sound, plot holes are closed, everyone goes to their designing corners happy. The system works.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

everything gets better with Shockwave

Even Space T-rex
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 24 2012, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I've solved the issue Some of us are having...

I give you TIME AND SPACE T-REX!


The question isn't whereis the space T-Rex, but when is the space t-rex?
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:57 PM

"Why You Doctor leave Me Space T-rex!?! Am it because me no am kisser?"

-Space T-rex
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:26 PM

Can somebody check and see if Hasbro legal has trademarked "Space T-Rex?


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:29 PM


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:34 PM

Yeah, not buying the "retirement" thing either. Not least because of the trademark issue - gotta keep that name in circulation. I suppose we could end up with more green construction vehicles named Grimlock, but I find it more likely that we'll still get Dinobots every now and then.

Seems more likely that Hasbro just didn't have a place for them right now in Movie 4 or Prime, and wanted a good pitch for the video game that made sense.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:35 PM

which way are they headed Cheets? cause I have to say.. a Space T-rex and Yoda conversation would be EPIC
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:46 PM

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I think I've solved the issue Some of us are having...

I give you TIME AND SPACE T-REX!


The question isn't whereis the space T-Rex, but when is the space t-rex?


QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 24 2012, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Why You Doctor leave Me Space T-rex!?! Am it because me no am kisser?"

-Space T-rex


All this pictures, and yet in the IDW comics, the 11th Doctor actually DID have a Space T-Rex as a companion for a short while. A Robotic intelligent Space T-Rex from an amusement park planet. http://tardis.wikia....i/Kevin_(robot)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

the Doctor.. causing heartbreak where ever he goes...


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ Apr 25 2012, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't the DS version of WFC the last appearance of Grimlock?

War for Cybertron killed the Dinobots.

Yes, but the DS version of Grimlock turned into a tank instead of a Space T-Rex, so I guess Hasbro were OK with it.



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