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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#1 MrBlud

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:54 AM

For some reason I really identify Inferno and Grapple with the collar things they had on the G1 show and G1 molds. I realize that was merely an aspect of the mold they decided to carry over but for me it's as integral to their character (or at least the representation) as say the door wings on Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen or the hood on Huffer.

The updated Universe molds are wonderful and all but because they lack them; having instead regular fully movable heads they've always felt "off" to me. Same thing with Botcon Huffer honestly but that was a repaint so I can't really complain.

I know having their heads in something like that would've probably *massively* impeded their articulation but I still hope/wish someone like Venksta would make an aftermarket version I could use to "fix" mine.

Anybody feel the same way?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:03 AM

Not really. It honestly looks kind of dumb.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:09 AM

if it had a way to connect the hook on grapple ... and came with head wings for inferno
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:21 AM

I do miss it quite a bit -- the unconventional overall head+collar shape is certainly key to their look, for me, very much like Gears and Huffer -- but not exactly enough to shell out that kind of dough for it.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:33 AM

yep I miss it Inferno..or Grapple I have always had one or the other sence I was a kid
and I like the great head design tucked far in the back of the vehical

Ah well cant get all your nastalga bombs in one toy

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if it had a way to connect the hook on grapple ... and came with head wings for inferno


Well the ideal Inferno one would obviously come with the wings sticking out like on the show.

...connecting the hook on Grapple would be pretty awesome.

You could probably use the same basic shape for each but have a connection point on the back of Grapple's for the hook and places on the side of Inferno's for the wings.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:06 AM

but guise the hook is already connected on grapel
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:06 AM

I could go for it, Blud. I hadn't really thought about it before you mentioned it, but I could. I had Inferno and my brother had Grapple as kids and I've always thought that mold was one of the best.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:36 AM

I agree. I absolutely wouldn't want some aftermarket thing, though; the point of the thing was that it was an integral part of the transformation, so having an extra cosmetic piece would just feel wrong.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:03 AM

Inferno has never looked like Inferno to me. Whether it's because of the missing neckbrace, or the completely different body style, I'm not sure. (Actually, it's probably a bit of both.) But whatever the reason, it makes me want a new Inferno as much as some other fans want a new Ironhide.

The Universe toy just completely fails to capture the character, in my opinion. And, unfortunately, the same goes for any G1 Inferno repaints out of the Universe mold (Grapple, Artfire, any would-be Haulers).

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:10 AM

Hmm, would a ladder for Inferno have helped? Just wondering how much of the essential Inferno-ness is lacking in the Universe toy.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:15 AM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Apr 19 2012, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, would a ladder for Inferno have helped? Just wondering how much of the essential Inferno-ness is lacking in the Universe toy.


If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

Edited by NightViper, 19 April 2012 - 08:16 AM.


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Apr 19 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

This. G1 Inferno was built like a basketball player. Universe Inferno is just too short and blocky. He's like a kid wearing a cardboard box costume.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:45 AM

Me neither. I mean, yeah, the G1 toys had it because the heads were inside the (non-rotateable) turrets, but I can understand how a different transformation makes them redundant.

It is important for Hot Spot/Defensor, though. I always liked how he was the only Gestalt at the time to have his gestalt head integrated into his alt mode in this way.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Apr 19 2012, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Apr 19 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

This. G1 Inferno was built like a basketball player. Universe Inferno is just too short and blocky. He's like a kid wearing a cardboard box costume.


A point guard, maybe.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

yes C16 it is - but if we're willing to modify our toys to the point of 'wishing for 3rd party add ons' - popping off a mushroom clip, isn't really crossing any new ground icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

I find Universe Inferno's proportions match the cartoon pretty well. He's just a box with legs.



Basketball player, not so much.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that's what the toy was too.
In both modes.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

Naw, the toy's robot mode was indeed more tall-looking than fat-looking. He still had a big gut, regardless, it was just a big gut that looked tinier since it was a smaller portion of his tall torso. ...a tall torso which was possible because Inferno transformed into the worst-ever fire truck toy. Oy.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

And when that same transformation was done decades later it just made Optimus look fat. Funny that.
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