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@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:54 AM

For some reason I really identify Inferno and Grapple with the collar things they had on the G1 show and G1 molds. I realize that was merely an aspect of the mold they decided to carry over but for me it's as integral to their character (or at least the representation) as say the door wings on Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen or the hood on Huffer.

The updated Universe molds are wonderful and all but because they lack them; having instead regular fully movable heads they've always felt "off" to me. Same thing with Botcon Huffer honestly but that was a repaint so I can't really complain.

I know having their heads in something like that would've probably *massively* impeded their articulation but I still hope/wish someone like Venksta would make an aftermarket version I could use to "fix" mine.

Anybody feel the same way?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:03 AM

Not really. It honestly looks kind of dumb.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:09 AM

if it had a way to connect the hook on grapple ... and came with head wings for inferno
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:21 AM

I do miss it quite a bit -- the unconventional overall head+collar shape is certainly key to their look, for me, very much like Gears and Huffer -- but not exactly enough to shell out that kind of dough for it.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:33 AM

yep I miss it Inferno..or Grapple I have always had one or the other sence I was a kid
and I like the great head design tucked far in the back of the vehical

Ah well cant get all your nastalga bombs in one toy

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if it had a way to connect the hook on grapple ... and came with head wings for inferno


Well the ideal Inferno one would obviously come with the wings sticking out like on the show.

...connecting the hook on Grapple would be pretty awesome.

You could probably use the same basic shape for each but have a connection point on the back of Grapple's for the hook and places on the side of Inferno's for the wings.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:06 AM

but guise the hook is already connected on grapel

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:06 AM

I could go for it, Blud. I hadn't really thought about it before you mentioned it, but I could. I had Inferno and my brother had Grapple as kids and I've always thought that mold was one of the best.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:36 AM

I agree. I absolutely wouldn't want some aftermarket thing, though; the point of the thing was that it was an integral part of the transformation, so having an extra cosmetic piece would just feel wrong.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:03 AM

Inferno has never looked like Inferno to me. Whether it's because of the missing neckbrace, or the completely different body style, I'm not sure. (Actually, it's probably a bit of both.) But whatever the reason, it makes me want a new Inferno as much as some other fans want a new Ironhide.

The Universe toy just completely fails to capture the character, in my opinion. And, unfortunately, the same goes for any G1 Inferno repaints out of the Universe mold (Grapple, Artfire, any would-be Haulers).

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:10 AM

Hmm, would a ladder for Inferno have helped? Just wondering how much of the essential Inferno-ness is lacking in the Universe toy.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:15 AM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Apr 19 2012, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, would a ladder for Inferno have helped? Just wondering how much of the essential Inferno-ness is lacking in the Universe toy.


If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Apr 19 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

This. G1 Inferno was built like a basketball player. Universe Inferno is just too short and blocky. He's like a kid wearing a cardboard box costume.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:45 AM

Me neither. I mean, yeah, the G1 toys had it because the heads were inside the (non-rotateable) turrets, but I can understand how a different transformation makes them redundant.

It is important for Hot Spot/Defensor, though. I always liked how he was the only Gestalt at the time to have his gestalt head integrated into his alt mode in this way.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Apr 19 2012, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Apr 19 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it would change the overall design of the to make the vehicle mode look longer and the robot mode look "taller", maybe.

But really ladder or pump truck doesn't really matter to me. It's just that G1 Inferno was one of the first toys to have somewhat human proportions compared to the Autobots around him. Which always made that aspect of his toy stand out in my mind. So the big chunky no-waist Universe toy was a disappointment since we first saw images of it.

This. G1 Inferno was built like a basketball player. Universe Inferno is just too short and blocky. He's like a kid wearing a cardboard box costume.


A point guard, maybe.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

yes C16 it is - but if we're willing to modify our toys to the point of 'wishing for 3rd party add ons' - popping off a mushroom clip, isn't really crossing any new ground icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

I find Universe Inferno's proportions match the cartoon pretty well. He's just a box with legs.



Basketball player, not so much.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that's what the toy was too.
In both modes.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

Naw, the toy's robot mode was indeed more tall-looking than fat-looking. He still had a big gut, regardless, it was just a big gut that looked tinier since it was a smaller portion of his tall torso. ...a tall torso which was possible because Inferno transformed into the worst-ever fire truck toy. Oy.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

And when that same transformation was done decades later it just made Optimus look fat. Funny that.
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