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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

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Did you at least buy him dinner?

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So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

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Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.


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#41 Might Gaine

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:20 PM

How was the US able to get them for $20 if Takara has to sell them for $70? It just seems so disproportionate.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:11 PM

It's probably another "We're making a limited run, so we're jacking up the price" thing like a couple of the United Deluxes.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:30 PM

If Takara is trying to save money/increase profitability charging 3x retail for the PCCs is pretty much the stupidest thing imaginable.

They would've had more success just handing out the money on the street they spent.

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#44 Shockwave 75

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 18 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Gunrage @ Apr 18 2012, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I MUST SEE MORE OF THAT UNICRON.

I AGREE! icon-fire.gif

THIS!

I'm actually aghast that everyone is babbling about the PCC's and largely ignoring the new Unicron figure!

The PCC's are the same toys everyone lambasted for years, but slap a new paint job on them and they're suddenly gold? Wow, too bad Hasbro didn't just do that in the first place!



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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 18 2012, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How was the US able to get them for $20 if Takara has to sell them for $70? It just seems so disproportionate.
Takara isn't selling them for that, importers are. Importing always carries a premium.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Apr 18 2012, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 18 2012, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How was the US able to get them for $20 if Takara has to sell them for $70? It just seems so disproportionate.
Takara isn't selling them for that, importers are. Importing always carries a premium.

I'm not sure where you go that from, given that the sources for the price of these products is a solicitation from Takara and a retail listing on Amazon.co.jp.

The retail price is 6090 yen = $75.
Amazon's discounted price is 5098 yen = $63.

So roughly $70.

Edited by Might Gaine, 18 April 2012 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:03 PM

Ah, I was thinking we were talking about the prices up on BBTS. My mistake.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ Apr 18 2012, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 18 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Gunrage @ Apr 18 2012, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I MUST SEE MORE OF THAT UNICRON.

I AGREE! icon-fire.gif

THIS!

I'm actually aghast that everyone is babbling about the PCC's and largely ignoring the new Unicron figure!

The PCC's are the same toys everyone lambasted for years, but slap a new paint job on them and they're suddenly gold? Wow, too bad Hasbro didn't just do that in the first place!


I'm not sure what thread you're reading, but this one is hardly universal praise for the PCCs. And I'd assume people are talking more about the PCCs because we have amazon pages with nice high resolution photos of them, and only a teeny tiny little picture of a grey prototype Unicron.


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#49 Silent_Magnus

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE(shellspark @ Apr 18 2012, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ Apr 18 2012, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 18 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Gunrage @ Apr 18 2012, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I MUST SEE MORE OF THAT UNICRON.

I AGREE! icon-fire.gif

THIS!

I'm actually aghast that everyone is babbling about the PCC's and largely ignoring the new Unicron figure!

The PCC's are the same toys everyone lambasted for years, but slap a new paint job on them and they're suddenly gold? Wow, too bad Hasbro didn't just do that in the first place!


I'm not sure what thread you're reading, but this one is hardly universal praise for the PCCs. And I'd assume people are talking more about the PCCs because we have amazon pages with nice high resolution photos of them, and only a teeny tiny little picture of a grey prototype Unicron.

I don't even think that's a prototype.
It looks like a computer model.


#50 CORVUS

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:42 PM

He's gonna be papercraft, isn't he? icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:11 PM

Ugh ill just toss the pcc guys on my list and forget about them.....unicron looks like poo.....megs looks very nice...

#52 Might Gaine

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:26 PM

Unicron combining with Optimus Prime is awesome and random, and might make him worth picking up if he's Japan-only.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:11 PM

Speaking of Prototypes; are we not gonna talk about the Jet Vehicon prototype shown? Cause that looks pretty cool to me. Though, the Jet mode, looks sorta like a car with wings.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The PCC's are the same toys everyone lambasted for years, but slap a new paint job on them and they're suddenly gold? Wow, too bad Hasbro didn't just do that in the first place!

They did. It was called "wave 3" and pretty much put a pin in the whole thing. icon-waspy.gif

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Apr 18 2012, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But is Unicron a rock? I want a Unicron rock lord!

I want to repurpose him as Classics Magmar! icon-fire.gif


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Phlis @ Apr 18 2012, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Prototypes; are we not gonna talk about the Jet Vehicon prototype shown? Cause that looks pretty cool to me. Though, the Jet mode, looks sorta like a car with wings.


I'll have an opinion on him and Unicron once we see them not tiny and grainy.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:36 PM

hmm a more play-friendly... not the cybertron Deluxe...smaller Unicron. I'm in.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Phlis @ Apr 18 2012, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Prototypes; are we not gonna talk about the Jet Vehicon prototype shown? Cause that looks pretty cool to me. Though, the Jet mode, looks sorta like a car with wings.

Well, aren't they basically cars with wings in the cartoon?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:56 PM

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:45 AM

I'm not really interested in Unicron's pointless waste of engineering to combine with another toy.

Let's hope it can stand on its own.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:51 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 18 2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Phlis @ Apr 18 2012, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Prototypes; are we not gonna talk about the Jet Vehicon prototype shown? Cause that looks pretty cool to me. Though, the Jet mode, looks sorta like a car with wings.


I'll have an opinion on him and Unicron once we see them not tiny and grainy.

Walky, you know that's not how this works.

We have a microscopic sliver of information and a lousy image, and that's all we need to determine that something is the worst thing ever.


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