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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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#1 radicaldeth

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:26 AM

A member posted some pics from Robot Kingdom of the new TFP stuff. Gaia Unicron and Darkness Megatron. From the pics, Megs looks like a Voyager. Also some PCC combiners, not sure who since I don't collect those.

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Edit: I've had my coffee now and got a better look at Megs. ^^ Changed info to voyager.

Edited by Powered Convoy, 18 April 2012 - 08:00 AM.


#2 Chris McFeely

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:56 AM

Ah, turns out the "Jetmaster," "Rollermaster", "Chopmaster" and "Combatmaster" listings we saw a day or two ago are for the PCCs.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:06 AM

Oh, so they're releasing the PCC's in their original colors? Shame, I was wondering if they'd mix things up a bit.

Would like better pictures of Gaia Unicron. Darkness Megatron seems to be Voyager Megs with a bat-backpack?


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:10 AM


Knew it was gonna be the PCCs, but, yeah, hoped for some interesting new colors/characters out of them. icon-screamer.gif


-ZacWilliam, ah well, wasn't going to get them either way, just would have been less boring. Would not have thought of the Ice guy for Roller Master though....
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#5 radicaldeth

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE(lastmaximal @ Apr 18 2012, 05:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would like better pictures of Gaia Unicron. Darkness Megatron seems to be Voyager Megs with a bat-backpack?



Megatron is really confusing. I thought it was the deluxe, that's what the ship looks like. But it seems like he has the shoulder pad armor like Voyager does. Plus those added bat wings. It's the ship mode that really throwing me off. That looks like the deluxe from that angle.

And since you called it a bat-backpack, now I suddenly want this fig. >_>

Edited by radicaldeth, 18 April 2012 - 05:39 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:18 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Knew it was gonna be the PCCs, but, yeah, hoped for some interesting new colors/characters out of them. icon-screamer.gif


-ZacWilliam, ah well, wasn't going to get them either way, just would have been less boring. Would not have thought of the Ice guy for Roller Master though....

I wouldn't give up hope yet that these won't be redecoed. These types of pictures from magazines often just show the Hasbro versions (the same thing was true for much of Henkei! Henkei! when they were solicited in this type of mag).

They're just the Hasbro stock photos.
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Edited by Powered Convoy, 18 April 2012 - 06:26 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:41 AM

http://www.amazon.co..._...p;x=18&y=26

Well that's better.

Looks like they went for unifying color schemes for the drone teams.

The results for Combatmaster/Bombshock look pretty boring. Pass

I kinda like Jetmaster's colors though. Blue and white is pretty. (So close to the Jetfire colors I wanted to see, but just missing. Ah well.) His singular small robot form is quite nice.

Can't really imagine what they were thinking for the Icepick repaint. Weird busy clashy colors. But they look good on the alt. Form.

Searchlight/Choppermaster looks ok. Going seafoam for a rescue copter makes sense, and works but isn't quite different enough to really interest me.


-ZacWilliam, I'd buy the Skyburst set at US prices, but not at what it would cost to import...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 18 April 2012 - 07:43 AM.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 18 2012, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did I not tell you that those other images were nothing to go off of?
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The color schemes are definitely a lot more unified among the 5 pack guys. I think everyone is an improvement (or in Bombshock's case, about the same) except for Icepick. His colors are weird, but I do like the detailing.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:04 AM

Okay, just choked when I saw the price listing for the 5-packs. Nearly $63 per 5-pack, and that's with the Amazon.co.jp discount.

I love me some PCCs, but... not those mold-sets, I don't think. Not again, again.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:05 AM

I like the colors shown at the Amazon link. Not enough to shell out for these of course. I got most of my PCCs for $10 a set or less.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:06 AM

Okay now I think I have to get Megatron and the flying Vehicon.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:06 AM

The batpack is pretty definitely a MiniCon, right? So that's interesting.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:17 AM

Well, so much for having a complete Power Core Combiners collection.

God damn it Takara.

(Not super angry about it but still!)

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:31 AM

The bat wing-pack guy on Darkness Megatron is Hades. He also comes with Gora 2.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:31 AM

I MUST SEE MORE OF THAT UNICRON.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:41 AM

The colors look good, but man, those prices suck. (And people were complaining about US prices!) I think these will be about as successful in Japan as they were in the US.....

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:43 AM

Oh man, those PCC colours look great. So how am I going to not buy them now?

Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:47 AM

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I MUST SEE MORE OF THAT UNICRON.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:55 AM

Might talk myself into the Chopperoller set, if only so I can combine Roller Master and Icepick Energon-style. Not a fan of how the five-packs look like this.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

Oh, heyyyy now, those versus-pack PCC colors are neat. I especially like that shade of green, and the gold with the dark blue-purple... they're priced way out of my range, though.


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