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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Gridlock

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:48 PM

Found on IDW board: IDW Publishing Forums :: View topic - IDW solicitations for July

IDW Publishing July 2012 Solicitations

Transformers: Regeneration One #81
Simon Furman (w) ? Andrew Wildman & Stephen Baskerville (a) ? Wildman, Guido Guidi ©
The TRANSFORMERS comic that began it all?is back. With a vengeance! 21 years have passed since CYBERTRON was restored to its former glory, and finally there is peace. But, after millions of years of bitter civil war, can all ever truly be one? In a conflict this primal, this epic and far-reaching? There are always ?Loose Ends?!


Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye Ongoing #7
James Roberts (w) ? Alex Milne (a) ? Milne, Nick Roche ©
DECEPTICON MONTH! The war?s over ? but no-one told the DECEPTICON Justice Division! Meet the five deadliest DECEPTICONS in the galaxy. Their sole purpose: to hunt down and kill anyone who has ever disobeyed MEGATRON. Who?s their next target?



Transformers: Robots in Disguise Ongoing #7
John Barber (w) ? Brendan Cahill (a) ? Andrew Griffith, Casey Coller ©
DECEPTICON MONTH! Fan-favorite character TURMOIL returns from the dead?but what does he want on CYBERTRON? The AUTOBOTS don?t want another DECEPTICON on their planet and the DECEPTICONS don?t want things to get any worse? but what Wheeljack discovers about the DECEPTICON warlord will change everything!


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:09 PM


Wow the MtMtE solicit and cover almost gives me the shivers. That sounds amazing. And it features the full return of real Cons to the book.

That RG1 cover is pretty awesome too. Best piece by Wildman I've seen on this series yet. VERY excited.icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

This makes happy in my pants.
Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

#4 Chris McFeely

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

Grey helmet. icon-screamer.gif

Also, no, I'm sorry, Turmoil has at no point ever been anything resembling a fan-favourite character. He's that murky guy who sort of appeared in that one issue.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Apr 13 2012, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Grey helmet. icon-screamer.gif

Also, no, I'm sorry, Turmoil has at no point ever been anything resembling a fan-favourite character. He's that murky guy who sort of appeared in that one issue.


They said they would do "corrected colors" in modern scenes but keep old style Marvel colors in flashbacks. It makes a sort of sense. Though I don't see why keeping Marvel colors throughout wouldn't have been easier/better.

Oh, and Turmoil was in TWO issues! So... Yeah, still not really a favorite.


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:43 PM

Hooray for the return of "yelling at the reader" covers.
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#7 Chris McFeely

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 14 2012, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and Turmoil was in TWO issues!


I think if you added those two issues together and squinted, you could make out about one issue's worth of artwork. Murkity murk murk.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Apr 13 2012, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 14 2012, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and Turmoil was in TWO issues!


I think if you added those two issues together and squinted, you could make out about one issue's worth of artwork. Murkity murk murk.


Remember when each TF had a special super power? (Yes, ok that was pretty much just 1984. But remember it?) Maybe Turmoil's power is Murk. That'd be pretty cool. He could be like the anti-Rainbow Bright, creating a field of murkity dark confusion to turn the battlefield to his advantage!


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Apr 13 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, no, I'm sorry, Turmoil has at no point ever been anything resembling a fan-favourite character.


He seems to be FF on IDW forum... Like a lot of other characters/people. icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Apr 13 2012, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Grey helmet. icon-screamer.gif



AND red eyes AND grey midsection!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#11 Ursa Magnus

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:56 PM

Now forgive me because I've been waiting for the trade on this series, but has Wheeljack in RiD always co-opted Prime 'Jack's bodyform? icon-depth.gif

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:29 PM

You never know, THIS might be the issue that makes us Hunger for a Turmoil CHUG figure...
Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:37 PM

I'm all for advertising hyperbole but referring to Turmoil as a "fan-favorite character" is pretty much outright lying.

Hell referring to Turmoil as "a character the fans may be aware exists" is kinda stretching.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now forgive me because I've been waiting for the trade on this series, but has Wheeljack in RiD always co-opted Prime 'Jack's bodyform? icon-depth.gif


That's not what Prime Wheeljack looks like.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 13 2012, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm all for advertising hyperbole but referring to Turmoil as a "fan-favorite character" is pretty much outright lying.

Hell referring to Turmoil as "a character the fans may be aware exists" is kinda stretching.


Depends on what forums you read. For example, if you mostly read the IDW forums, then Turmoil IS a fan-favorite character. Let's not be all TFW2005 here and assume that the entirety of the fanbase is right here and the folks who aren't here agree with us. There's a spectrum of opinions across the Internet with some localized puddlings of beliefs.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:30 AM

His appearances were in issues that (I doubt) sold over a few thousand copies.

I mean, in all honesty, the largest segment of "The Fandom" are the people who watched the movies and maybe have seen a few episodes of Prime. They probably don't even know who DRIFT is to say nothing of his one time Commander who showed up for like fifteen panels across two comics.

It would be just as disingenuous to call Sky Garry the "fan favorite Autobot commander" or Paddles "the fan favorite Dinobot" even if you could find fifteen fans who agreed with it; that statement is far from definitive on a fandom-wide scale.

On the other hand...it's just a comic book, I should really just relax. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 14 2012, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now forgive me because I've been waiting for the trade on this series, but has Wheeljack in RiD always co-opted Prime 'Jack's bodyform? icon-depth.gif


That's not what Prime Wheeljack looks like.


Well, I've seen him on the show AND have him sitting on my shelf, so to my eye he bears a resemblance. I'm aware he's not an exact copy, but he looks more than a little similar.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Apr 14 2012, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 14 2012, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now forgive me because I've been waiting for the trade on this series, but has Wheeljack in RiD always co-opted Prime 'Jack's bodyform? icon-depth.gif


That's not what Prime Wheeljack looks like.


Well, I've seen him on the show AND have him sitting on my shelf, so to my eye he bears a resemblance. I'm aware he's not an exact copy, but he looks more than a little similar.


He's definitely cribbing some design elements from Prime. The RID comic in general seems to draw from current or possible near-future toys, and that's a good thing.

Edited by Chip, 14 April 2012 - 08:57 AM.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

What exactly are the criteria for someone to be a fan favorite? Like over on the IDW boards, there's about three people excited about Turmoil and he's barely been mentioned since the Drift miniseries when he last appeared. He doesn't get a tenth of the attention guys like Overlord do.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:29 PM

Its just a selling tactic, thats all.

Its not true but its really nothing to complain seriously about.

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