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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 02:41 PM)

Optimus makes a lousy helmet.

@  Nutjob R/T : (12 February 2016 - 02:11 PM)

Wait when did Optimus Prime fly off the top of your head?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 01:55 PM)

@Paladin @TheMightyMollusk @NotVeryKnightly Dumb dumb dumb on Hasbros part. Optimus flew withing the first three episodes of the G1 cartoon. No not the glide flight thing that only Deceps uses after that I mean the jetpack part. Plus I can site four other times he flew off the top of my head.

@  Boomhauer : (12 February 2016 - 12:45 PM)

Optimus already got to fly in RID's Season finale, though one could argue he was just falling with style instead of flying properly.

@  Rycochet : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

The Unicron Trilogy had awful shows but some really neat toys even if it did get off to a shaky start with some of the unnecessarily flawed Armada stuff.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

Didn't he fly in Beast Hunters?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 11:58 AM)

What about Animated?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:55 AM)

Someone who never saw the Unicron Trilogy. God do I envy them....

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 11:49 AM)

...Hasbro's billing that new "Power Surge Optimus Prime" as "the first time Optimus takes flight." who thought THAT sounded right....

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:34 AM)

More likely, they'll all follow the same visual style to retain brand coherency. The most you could hope for is better writing, but don't hold your breath.

@  Dracula : (12 February 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Cool. Bay can't possibly direct all of those. Maybe we'll get someone else's vision of what a TF movie could look like.

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 10:14 AM)

ugh. we're apparently getting 1 TF film A YEAR starting 2017. and Bumblebee gets a spinoff film...

@  Plokatron : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 PM)

Guess no one has the comic then. Blast I need that close up of Ironhide's helmet!

@  Arazyr : (11 February 2016 - 01:41 PM)

Happy Birthday, young'un. 8^)

@  D Buster Prime : (11 February 2016 - 01:21 PM)

It's my BIRTHDAY! I'm 35 years young!

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 10:54 AM)

nah! it's Venus that's going to Botcon!

@  Paladin : (11 February 2016 - 10:45 AM)

could've also meant Cree Summer...

@  Dracula : (11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM)

Good going, Blackarachnia. I heard it's been hard for her to get roles after Hasbro brought in Airachnid.

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 06:34 AM)

you mean Venus Terzo! she's supposed to be going to Botcon

@  Whirl Maximus : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 AM)

Blackarachnia was on Supernatural last night.

@  Plokatron : (10 February 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Ponderous slagging ponderous. Hey anyone got some good Hi-res captures of Ironhide in Infestation? I really need close ups of his head for reference on a project.

@  Plokatron : (09 February 2016 - 10:46 PM)

Ok now this is funny. I ordered a used copy of HoS GN and the one I got was a library copy once. It's marked Union County on it. Thats my home county. :D It never was in my library though. Mine is named after the man who built it not the town or county but still kinda funny.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 February 2016 - 09:44 PM)

Is it sad I read "KF7 Soviet" as "KFC7 Soviet"?

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM)

Neat.

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 03:35 PM)

A what? Oh, you must mean a KF7 Soviet. Common mistake.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Can I just get an AK-47 instead?

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 02:35 PM)

this is form 47-a. you want form 47-A. start again

@  MEDdMI : (09 February 2016 - 02:07 PM)

Now you didn't fill the form in black or blue ink. Do it again.

@  Rycochet : (09 February 2016 - 02:04 PM)

You made a typo on the first page of the forms, you're going to have to go back and fill the whole form out again, from first to final.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 01:31 PM)

"bats"

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 01:09 PM)

Nice and soft, you say? This isn't even my final form!!!!

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 12:47 PM)

its nice and soft like YOU dracula *bats eyelashes* and thatll probly be the last thing i post in this thing now lol

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 08:52 AM)

It's course and rough...wait that doesn't work

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 08:43 AM)

It gets everywhere?

@  Paladin : (09 February 2016 - 07:57 AM)

i hate snow.

@  BillBarclay : (08 February 2016 - 04:58 PM)

btw one of the Transformers Victory intro's(not the original music used) on YouTube uses one of the pieces of music used on the US version of Transformers Armada

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:55 PM)

You should read it again, it gets better with age!

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 03:46 PM)

I am fully aware of that story and mentioning it carries the penalty of fifty towel snaps.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:31 PM)

Shh, it's a trap!

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2016 - 02:48 PM)

See, you said "awesome" and "The Beast" in the same sentence, and I think you broke my mind with the contradiction.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:42 PM)

No-one tell Whirl about the awesome dinobot combiner, The Beast.

@  Plokatron : (08 February 2016 - 02:37 PM)

@Dracula Uh oh were in trouble.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:36 PM)

If you think that's cool, wait until you see what other stuff we're hiding from you.

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 02:33 PM)

Transformers Victory's intro is awesome. And not one of you told me.... WHY?!!!

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

It doesn't count those using it on other pages.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

If it's the one by IPB Shoutbox, it means the number of people who are viewing the Shoutbox page.

@  tffan01 : (08 February 2016 - 10:34 AM)

Where's the red numbers?

@  Lush City : (08 February 2016 - 09:23 AM)

Ok total newb to the shoutbox, but what do the red numbers in the corner mean?

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Thought it would lead to hi jinks and a lark like that movie Idiocracy instead it turned into something disturbing and traumatic like that movie Small Soldiers.

@  Dracula : (08 February 2016 - 08:55 AM)

You used MUNITION CHIPS in TOYS??


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#1 D Buster Prime

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:20 PM

I'm probably painting myself as a "scalper" for even asking this, but I'm considering selling off some of my (er...my wife's) Botcon stuff in order to help make back some of the costs of the trip.

Do convention goers ever unload their exclusives right at the convention itself? Do any of the dealers regularly buy them for a fixed price? I noticed that BBTS has preorders for the convention exclusives, and I would think that they get their supply from people attending the convention.

This isn't an offer to sell to anybody here. I'm just trying to get a handle on what customary practice is. Ideally, I could get rid of some stuff right at the convention, so I can have more room in my luggage for the other stuff I buy for myself. I really hope I can get some good deals on Arms Microns! Yay!!!!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE(D Buster Prime @ Apr 12 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm probably painting myself as a "scalper" for even asking this, but I'm considering selling off some of my (er...my wife's) Botcon stuff in order to help make back some of the costs of the trip.

Do convention goers ever unload their exclusives right at the convention itself? Do any of the dealers regularly buy them for a fixed price? I noticed that BBTS has preorders for the convention exclusives, and I would think that they get their supply from people attending the convention.

This isn't an offer to sell to anybody here. I'm just trying to get a handle on what customary practice is. Ideally, I could get rid of some stuff right at the convention, so I can have more room in my luggage for the other stuff I buy for myself. I really hope I can get some good deals on Arms Microns! Yay!!!!

I can't speak to the "fixed price" nature of dealers buying exclusives at the convention, but a great many of them will offer store credit.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:23 AM

I think BBTS isn't going to be there, right? I sold my bagged set to them in 2008. I had to look harder for someone that would buy SG Blurr without whoever he came with, but I found it. You might get more on eBay, but it's pretty handy to hand them off at the Con and someone with a table has a good chance of finding a buyer and flipping it quick themselves.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:19 AM

I "flipped" my clear Mirage so I could buy a Glit/Sundor/Rosanna set back in 2007. I got cash for that at the time. Dunno if that's as common these days.

In a twist of irony, buying that set resulted in SG Ravage, which resulted in me being more engrossed in SG, which resulted in me purchasing the OTHER clear Mirage for more than I originally paid for the Kiss Players set.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:04 AM

Have no shame - I have flipped several sets over the years to offset costs, and it has been a common practice. Some even put Ebay auctions up before the con.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:22 AM

A lot of people seem to be trying to sell the boxset (not with much success it seems like).

You'll probably have a better shot with the at-con exclusives.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 13 2012, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A lot of people seem to be trying to sell the boxset (not with much success it seems like).

You'll probably have a better shot with the at-con exclusives.

I, personally, find pre-convention sales distasteful (to say nothing of the fact that they skirt eBay's rules, although the current batch are technically legal, since the convention is now less than 30 days away). I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'd be curious to see what sales, even of the box set, look like after the convention. Especially if they do actually sell out from Fun Pub between now and then.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:19 AM

Agreed. I have no issue with post-con exclusive flipping, and I'll tell you why: these aren't retail items. Part of my distaste for scalping revolves around taking toys out of the hands of kids, whether literally or figuratively.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 13 2012, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. I have no issue with post-con exclusive flipping, and I'll tell you why: these aren't retail items. Part of my distaste for scalping revolves around taking toys out of the hands of kids, whether literally or figuratively.

Hey, Walky! Have you ever done a Shortpacked! where some jerk snatched a rare toy out of a kid's hand?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:42 AM

Not yet, no.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:57 AM

Yeah, you need to, since we hear anecdotal tales of people literally taking a toy from a child's hand so they can buy it. Get to work! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:15 PM

Would you recommend against buying additional loose sets for flipping as well?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:21 PM

I expected this thread to be complaining about exclusives, with "flipping" being self-censoring.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

The once or twice I took the time and effort to buy a loose set to sell it, it sold for about what I bought it for. So I don't anymore.

Morally, I don't see any problem with it. I don't think buying a loose set to sell is conceivably "scalping," as to get one you have to be buying a box set anyway. You're not robbing that loose set from a person who won't otherwise be getting a set. If anything, you're spreading the toys around wider than they would have been otherwise, and likely more cheaply than the boxed set.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 13 2012, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The once or twice I took the time and effort to buy a loose set to sell it, it sold for about what I bought it for. So I don't anymore.

Morally, I don't see any problem with it. I don't think buying a loose set to sell is conceivably "scalping," as to get one you have to be buying a box set anyway. You're not robbing that loose set from a person who won't otherwise be getting a set. If anything, you're spreading the toys around wider than they would have been otherwise, and likely more cheaply than the boxed set.

Personally, I buy a loose set to keep, but sell the box set (usually for about what I bought it for, but sometimes more). I do this mostly so I can get the toys for the loose set price, since one can't buy loose sets without having purchased a box set.

And, frankly, I don't care about the boxes. They're beautiful, sure, but they take up tons of space. Actually, they're TOO beautiful. If I kept them (as I do for club exclusives), I tend to feel obligated to keep my toys in them, and I generally prefer to keep toys on display.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:08 PM

As I pile up more and more box set boxes, my brain is warring over whether adding to my pile is kinda sweet-ass or whether I'd rather have the space.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 13 2012, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I "flipped" my clear Mirage so I could buy a Glit/Sundor/Rosanna set back in 2007. I got cash for that at the time. Dunno if that's as common these days.


I did the same. Though mine was via Ebay, though. I had the auction set before heading out for dinner/the Stan Bush concert. It sold in a few hours for $100. I'm surprised it sold so fast, as it was the worst toy of the 2007 convention.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:53 PM

The sooner you list your toys, the more you'll get for them. You might even be able to do a high BIN price. Some people have more money than patience. The going price tends to drop shortly after the convention, and it takes a while for it to start to go back up.

I did pretty well selling a G2 Redux bagged set piece by piece. I didn't do so well with Wings of Honor, but I got back what I paid for it. Those are the only sets I've tried to sell.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 13 2012, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I buy a loose set to keep, but sell the box set (usually for about what I bought it for, but sometimes more). I do this mostly so I can get the toys for the loose set price, since one can't buy loose sets without having purchased a box set.

And, frankly, I don't care about the boxes. They're beautiful, sure, but they take up tons of space. Actually, they're TOO beautiful. If I kept them (as I do for club exclusives), I tend to feel obligated to keep my toys in them, and I generally prefer to keep toys on display.


Damn, that's a good idea.

I was just going to toss the box this year instead of shipping it home, but if I could sell it to someone and keep a loose set for myself, it would feel a lot less like a waste (because they are beautiful, but when you have 4 or 5 of them it gets ridiculous).
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:11 PM

It is not frowned upon, especially for just one or two of each item.

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