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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg


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#1 D Buster Prime

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:20 PM

I'm probably painting myself as a "scalper" for even asking this, but I'm considering selling off some of my (er...my wife's) Botcon stuff in order to help make back some of the costs of the trip.

Do convention goers ever unload their exclusives right at the convention itself? Do any of the dealers regularly buy them for a fixed price? I noticed that BBTS has preorders for the convention exclusives, and I would think that they get their supply from people attending the convention.

This isn't an offer to sell to anybody here. I'm just trying to get a handle on what customary practice is. Ideally, I could get rid of some stuff right at the convention, so I can have more room in my luggage for the other stuff I buy for myself. I really hope I can get some good deals on Arms Microns! Yay!!!!

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE(D Buster Prime @ Apr 12 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm probably painting myself as a "scalper" for even asking this, but I'm considering selling off some of my (er...my wife's) Botcon stuff in order to help make back some of the costs of the trip.

Do convention goers ever unload their exclusives right at the convention itself? Do any of the dealers regularly buy them for a fixed price? I noticed that BBTS has preorders for the convention exclusives, and I would think that they get their supply from people attending the convention.

This isn't an offer to sell to anybody here. I'm just trying to get a handle on what customary practice is. Ideally, I could get rid of some stuff right at the convention, so I can have more room in my luggage for the other stuff I buy for myself. I really hope I can get some good deals on Arms Microns! Yay!!!!

I can't speak to the "fixed price" nature of dealers buying exclusives at the convention, but a great many of them will offer store credit.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:23 AM

I think BBTS isn't going to be there, right? I sold my bagged set to them in 2008. I had to look harder for someone that would buy SG Blurr without whoever he came with, but I found it. You might get more on eBay, but it's pretty handy to hand them off at the Con and someone with a table has a good chance of finding a buyer and flipping it quick themselves.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:19 AM

I "flipped" my clear Mirage so I could buy a Glit/Sundor/Rosanna set back in 2007. I got cash for that at the time. Dunno if that's as common these days.

In a twist of irony, buying that set resulted in SG Ravage, which resulted in me being more engrossed in SG, which resulted in me purchasing the OTHER clear Mirage for more than I originally paid for the Kiss Players set.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:04 AM

Have no shame - I have flipped several sets over the years to offset costs, and it has been a common practice. Some even put Ebay auctions up before the con.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:22 AM

A lot of people seem to be trying to sell the boxset (not with much success it seems like).

You'll probably have a better shot with the at-con exclusives.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 13 2012, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A lot of people seem to be trying to sell the boxset (not with much success it seems like).

You'll probably have a better shot with the at-con exclusives.

I, personally, find pre-convention sales distasteful (to say nothing of the fact that they skirt eBay's rules, although the current batch are technically legal, since the convention is now less than 30 days away). I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'd be curious to see what sales, even of the box set, look like after the convention. Especially if they do actually sell out from Fun Pub between now and then.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:19 AM

Agreed. I have no issue with post-con exclusive flipping, and I'll tell you why: these aren't retail items. Part of my distaste for scalping revolves around taking toys out of the hands of kids, whether literally or figuratively.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 13 2012, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. I have no issue with post-con exclusive flipping, and I'll tell you why: these aren't retail items. Part of my distaste for scalping revolves around taking toys out of the hands of kids, whether literally or figuratively.

Hey, Walky! Have you ever done a Shortpacked! where some jerk snatched a rare toy out of a kid's hand?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:42 AM

Not yet, no.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:57 AM

Yeah, you need to, since we hear anecdotal tales of people literally taking a toy from a child's hand so they can buy it. Get to work! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:15 PM

Would you recommend against buying additional loose sets for flipping as well?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:21 PM

I expected this thread to be complaining about exclusives, with "flipping" being self-censoring.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

The once or twice I took the time and effort to buy a loose set to sell it, it sold for about what I bought it for. So I don't anymore.

Morally, I don't see any problem with it. I don't think buying a loose set to sell is conceivably "scalping," as to get one you have to be buying a box set anyway. You're not robbing that loose set from a person who won't otherwise be getting a set. If anything, you're spreading the toys around wider than they would have been otherwise, and likely more cheaply than the boxed set.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

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The once or twice I took the time and effort to buy a loose set to sell it, it sold for about what I bought it for. So I don't anymore.

Morally, I don't see any problem with it. I don't think buying a loose set to sell is conceivably "scalping," as to get one you have to be buying a box set anyway. You're not robbing that loose set from a person who won't otherwise be getting a set. If anything, you're spreading the toys around wider than they would have been otherwise, and likely more cheaply than the boxed set.

Personally, I buy a loose set to keep, but sell the box set (usually for about what I bought it for, but sometimes more). I do this mostly so I can get the toys for the loose set price, since one can't buy loose sets without having purchased a box set.

And, frankly, I don't care about the boxes. They're beautiful, sure, but they take up tons of space. Actually, they're TOO beautiful. If I kept them (as I do for club exclusives), I tend to feel obligated to keep my toys in them, and I generally prefer to keep toys on display.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:08 PM

As I pile up more and more box set boxes, my brain is warring over whether adding to my pile is kinda sweet-ass or whether I'd rather have the space.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 13 2012, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I "flipped" my clear Mirage so I could buy a Glit/Sundor/Rosanna set back in 2007. I got cash for that at the time. Dunno if that's as common these days.


I did the same. Though mine was via Ebay, though. I had the auction set before heading out for dinner/the Stan Bush concert. It sold in a few hours for $100. I'm surprised it sold so fast, as it was the worst toy of the 2007 convention.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:53 PM

The sooner you list your toys, the more you'll get for them. You might even be able to do a high BIN price. Some people have more money than patience. The going price tends to drop shortly after the convention, and it takes a while for it to start to go back up.

I did pretty well selling a G2 Redux bagged set piece by piece. I didn't do so well with Wings of Honor, but I got back what I paid for it. Those are the only sets I've tried to sell.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 13 2012, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I buy a loose set to keep, but sell the box set (usually for about what I bought it for, but sometimes more). I do this mostly so I can get the toys for the loose set price, since one can't buy loose sets without having purchased a box set.

And, frankly, I don't care about the boxes. They're beautiful, sure, but they take up tons of space. Actually, they're TOO beautiful. If I kept them (as I do for club exclusives), I tend to feel obligated to keep my toys in them, and I generally prefer to keep toys on display.


Damn, that's a good idea.

I was just going to toss the box this year instead of shipping it home, but if I could sell it to someone and keep a loose set for myself, it would feel a lot less like a waste (because they are beautiful, but when you have 4 or 5 of them it gets ridiculous).
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:11 PM

It is not frowned upon, especially for just one or two of each item.

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