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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Crypt

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:10 PM

So I've been given permission to have relations with others if I so please. I've always been open to the idea, but never actually had anyone tell me I could. I've had friends with benefits setups before, but not an open relationship.

Anyone here ever been in one? How was it? Hit any weird road blocks or did reality conflict with expectations?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:24 PM

Given the subject matter, I think you need to slap some really big warnings to potential posters to be very thoughtful regarding their replies. Otherwise, I see this thread getting shut down VERY quickly.

Some other information you may want to consider including in your post:

Whether you and your partner are married, engaged, steady. For how long?
What is your partners' interest level in seeing others?
What are the limits of your encounters? Will your home be opened to hosting?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:33 PM

I've always been mystiified by the very idea of an open relationship.

Ideally, shouldn't the one you're already in fulfill everything a relationship "should"?

And if fit doesn't, why remain in the relationship with the alpha person?

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#4 Crypt

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 12 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've always been mystiified by the very idea of an open relationship.

Ideally, shouldn't the one you're already in fulfill everything a relationship "should"?

And if fit doesn't, why remain in the relationship with the alpha person?


People have different ideals about what a relationship is and does. For me it'd be the love aspect. I don't think sex has to be bound to it. It's a nice benefit, but the relationship doesn't have to have a monopoly on it. Just the same way that your partner doesn't have to be your only friend, he/she doesn't need to be your only sexual partner. And even then, plenty of people believe that even love doesn't need 1 person monopoly and enter into poly-amorous relationships.

So "ideally" is different for different people when they have different standards on what constitutes a good relationship.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

Yeah, I was sort of in one.

It's not for me.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 12 2012, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've always been mystiified by the very idea of an open relationship.

Ideally, shouldn't the one you're already in fulfill everything a relationship "should"?

And if fit doesn't, why remain in the relationship with the alpha person?


I've been in an open relationship for 10 out of the 12 years Chris and I have been together. It's very liberating for both of us: if there's ever any sense of stagnation in our intimate life, we are permitted to seek companionship elsewhere, either on our own, or together. I'm trying to be as delicate in wording as possible here... heh. As long as there is significant communication and trust, the potential for conflict is greatly diminished-- to the point of being near nil.

Are we ever jealous of each other's companions? Occasionally, but it's almost always based on aesthetics.

It takes a very particular level of compatibility for two people to agree to an open relationship and make it work... I'm completely fulfilled by my partner, and although I would be perfectly happy in a closed relationship, there's a different level of fulfillment we feel when we're allowed to stray. It's kind of an adventure.

The idea of a polyamorous relationship is also on the table for us. There are a few people we've met in our lives that we have connected with in a way that make us consider opening ourselves to a third, but we're fat and things get cramped.

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#7 Kalidor

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

I haven't and it doesn't really sound like something I'd be a fan of. Stuff like group sex or whatever seems more like a "something I'd do when I'm single" kind of activity.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:57 PM

Something to note: I've encountered FAR more same-sex open relationships than opposite-sex ones. Anyone have opinions on why that is?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE(Crypt @ Apr 12 2012, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 12 2012, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've always been mystiified by the very idea of an open relationship.

Ideally, shouldn't the one you're already in fulfill everything a relationship "should"?

And if fit doesn't, why remain in the relationship with the alpha person?


People have different ideals about what a relationship is and does. For me it'd be the love aspect. I don't think sex has to be bound to it. It's a nice benefit, but the relationship doesn't have to have a monopoly on it. Just the same way that your partner doesn't have to be your only friend, he/she doesn't need to be your only sexual partner. And even then, plenty of people believe that even love doesn't need 1 person monopoly and enter into poly-amorous relationships.

So "ideally" is different for different people when they have different standards on what constitutes a good relationship.


Fair enough.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Dr Fang @ Apr 12 2012, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something to note: I've encountered FAR more same-sex open relationships than opposite-sex ones. Anyone have opinions on why that is?


Maybe it's because we already have to brush against the norms of society, so maybe that brings to the table more norms we can experiment with more easily.

The wiki stats are interesting though:
http://en.wikipedia....en_relationship
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1983 study by Philip Blumstein and Pepper Schwartz:[1]
15 percent of married couples in a sample of 3,574 couples, had ?an understanding that allows non-monogamy under some circumstances?
28 percent of cohabitating couples had ?an understanding that allows non-monogamy under some circumstances?
29 percent of lesbian couples had ?an understanding that allows non-monogamy under some circumstances?
65 percent of gay male couples had ?an understanding that allows non-monogamy under some circumstances?




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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:07 PM

People that are open to an open relationship hey do what you like. To me its means to an end, The end of a relationship. Thats my opinion. If yours is different good im happy for you I wont try to change it don't try to change mine. Me and my wife always joke about how she would jump Johnny Depp or Vin Diesel and my girfriend is Zhang Zizi. But the truth is we both make each other happy and nothing is missing from our relationship. So my serious honest question is is there something missing from your relationship or do you both just want to explore cause be careful it can be a very sharp double-edged sword.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:18 PM

I haven't myself, but I've known a few people who've tried it. It worked for some, and not for others (the latter group being a bit bigger). Many people just aren't suited to that kind of thing; it sounds fine to them on paper (especially guys), but in practice resentment eventually builds up and kills the primary relationship. But if one is the type of person who can deal with it (and the other person in the relationship is, as well), then it seems to be fine.

However, I'm reminded of Tobias F?nke's thoughts on open relationships, lol.



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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:18 PM

as far as I know every relationship I've had was an open one

>_> being that the door's always open if I wanted to leave LOL

I don't think I've met a woman that was INTO the idea that I might be looking around "browsing" if you will. Then they always seemed a little weird-ed out when I say I don't mind her looking.

the way I look at it: I've loved all the women I've had relationships with, I've remained close with most of the more recent ones and a LOT of the ones from my youth... I treat them with the respect any individual deserves ... having played with her underbits, doesn't make her less of a person after I'm not able to anymore. LOL

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As to your question/statement Fang, I can only say that yeah, it must just be a cultural thing - what with all the other baggage being dealt with, this sort of thing -bound to be easier to work through.

maybe just the whole 'like minds' angle, Men and Women have group socializing...

two guys in a bar listening to a 3rd harass a lady -one nodes to the other and without words the conversation has been made that "this is going to end now, got my back if it comes to blows?"
Women have that whole, tilt head to side - off to washroom in pairs thing as just another example.

so yeah, I never being in a non-hetero relationship - can only guess that yeah its the 'working from the same OS' and the somewhat unique situation that you seem to be noticing at work.

O_o I tell you I'd have had a lot more 3somes if I met women that thought like guys icon-fire.gif


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

Im in one right now both girls know about the other one both get jelous at times but there 0 contact between thim one is bi and has a relationship with another girl who I dont know or have 0 contact with

Both got sick of the guys that they where with being aholes till they found me im a very nice guy and they both never had that before they tried fighting over me at first tring to make me choose I was going to let thim go for there own good and find someone else enitrly but both decide to let me keep seeing the other with out much drama

Just be honest with thim I never lie to both of my girls no matter what as long as Im doing nothing wrong theres nothing to hide

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:39 PM

My girlfriend told me that I should have sex with other women as well as with her (partially because I didn't have that much experience prior to meeting her, and she's afraid that I might be missing out on something), but honestly.. I'm not going to take that risk. There's always the chance that it will unexpectedly bother her, after all or lead to other, tricky issues. And I don't want to risk losing her over that.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:44 PM

Also, gonorrhea

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:54 PM

I think the biggest question is who this is supposed to be for.

Have you had any complaints about the frequency or quality of sex? It could be her trying to solve the problem and keep you.

Is it out of the blue? For her? If so, she may have someone on the side and be trying to legitimize it and/or alleviate her guilt by ensuring that you are also with someone else.

Or, best case scenario, she's just into this kind of thing. She might have more awesome surprises for you down the line. letters to the editor kind of surprises.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:59 PM

My ex-wife and I had an open relationship,she kept opening my wallet so I opened the front door.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:03 PM

QUOTE(Solarstorm @ Apr 12 2012, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the biggest question is who this is supposed to be for.

Have you had any complaints about the frequency or quality of sex? It could be her trying to solve the problem and keep you.

Is it out of the blue? For her? If so, she may have someone on the side and be trying to legitimize it and/or alleviate her guilt by ensuring that you are also with someone else.

Or, best case scenario, she's just into this kind of thing. She might have more awesome surprises for you down the line. letters to the editor kind of surprises.



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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

It works for some and doesnt work for others. You jealousy levels will be the key, that and trust.Thats it.



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