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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

Would you like another TF "build it figure"?

I ask this question because last week. I noticed Marvel was still doing the "build it figure" parts inside other toy packages thing.

yes,I don't see the harm in it,as it's free & included inside another TF toy I buy.

Transmute was a bit of a dissapointment & rather a obsecure/un-popular/lack-luster choice.

I'd prefer the "build it figure" transform into a alt mode. even if it's a extremly simplistic transformation challenge.
I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

I prefer another TF "Build it figure" that's a bit more popular & less obsecure. like as follows: G-1 Arcee,G-1 Ravage,Alpha Trion,G-1 Galvatron,G-1 Grimlock

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:52 PM

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I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

While I like the idea, it would be especially difficult to implement for a toy that has to transform. Also, voyagers are quite a bit larger than a deluxe, so a voyager-sized toy would be a lot of extra plastic (and expense). Remember, even split among ten toys, a $20 toy is adding roughly $2 to the cost of every other toy, for an accessory that will be useless to the vast majority of toy buyers who won't buy nearly enough toys to complete the set.

This also works directly against the current case-assignment model in which not all toys are shipped in even amounts. You are literally guaranteeing wasted parts if there are more arms out there than legs.

And, all that's for a voyager toy that will likely be significantly compromised by the need to be splittable into 10 roughly-equal parts.

*edit* But, to be clear, I'd love the idea if it could actually be done at negligible extra cost to the base toy, and be meaningfully completeable, and produce a decent (or at least interesting) toy in the end. I'd imagine that those standards are impossible to meet, but conceptually it would be great fun, I think.

*edit*edit* A thought -- Micromaster combiners would ship well this way. That way, you're not getting a completely useless part even if you never get the set, but the set gives you something cool, too. Perhaps the combiner kibble could be fashioned to also be weapons for the main toys, so that the kibble bits could be their own pack-in component.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:04 PM

Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:15 PM

The figures we got the parts in would either have to be 100% brand new or different enough from previous releases to justify making the purchase.

What ruined the Beast Wars anniversary packs for me was the fact that I already had the vintage releases of a few of the figures in the assortment.

Thus, I was faced with the prospect of either not getting everyone and so not getting all of the parts for Transmutate or getting all the parts for Transmutate but having duplicate figures.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:20 PM

I just can't see it working for Transformers.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:23 PM

I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

On the other hand you could go the "Build and Action Master" route and take any character and design them like you would any modern action figure but it would be a posable, non transforming representation with good articulation, good paint and good detail.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:36 PM

I want Fall of Cybertron Build A Figures. You buy a FoC figure and get a custom part that can be used to make one of the multiplayer body types. Each of the classes- scientist, scout, soldier and leader could be broken into 4 parts that you could mix and match. The transformations would have to be semi-compatible, but the accessories (wings, wheels, guns, spoilers, heads, etc.) could all be on 5 mm pegs and c-clips so you could spread them out.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:39 AM

Autobot X works for me.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:17 AM

Do it like they are the gum with Fort Max. Release each limb as a base for the Cyberverse dudes and then the combined mode is a 3ft tall Fort Max....

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:43 AM

id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:17 AM

QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Apr 10 2012, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx


Prime Unicron is a Cyberverse playset just waiting to happen so I doubt it.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.

This basically how I feel too.

I only bought 3 of the 10th ann BW figures because that's all I needed so I never got a whole Transmutate. And I don't buy figures that I don't need or want, so a BAF wouldn't really be an inducement for me to buy any more figures.

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Apr 9 2012, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

This though, would be a good idea! I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.



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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

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I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.


Well, we're getting a non-BAF Death's Head from the Marvel toy line next year.

Good enough, yes?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

I could be interested in build-a-figure. I didn't get Transmutate because 1) don't really like Transmutate and 2) didn't buy any of that series of BW figures. But overall I approve of the idea.

I did end up with some odds and ends of BAF that I'd never complete. For example I think I got a Pitt arm or leg when I bought Madman from some "Legendary Heroes" type series. Ended up finding someone who wanted it, I just wanted to see it go to a good home instead of throwing it out.

I don't approve of BAF if it noticeably raises the cost of the figure.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:37 PM

yeah I'd rather they gave us a set of figures that were completely independent... but then have mail away "gestalt parts" that you'd use these things called robot points for...

you'd cut them off the back of the cards and mail them in if you got the whole set and hasbro would ship you out..oh i don't know:

A head, Set of Shoulder extensions, chest plate, fists and forearms, feet and thighs.. oh and a real big gun
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

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Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

This would probably work more better... If you had that a pack in weapon, that could mix and match with other weapons. Sort of like Energon. But done a bit slightly better than that.

I mean the weapons were just designed to peg to each other. Actually combinable weapons. To make something that actually looks like a larger weapons would be cool.


As for a buld a figure. It'd have to be designed to be sturdier than a normal tf. Which I figure would make transformation more taxing and such.


It would be neat if we got a customizable tf though. Swappable heads and weapons. To make different characters.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE(Servitor 2152 @ Apr 10 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Smitty @ Apr 10 2012, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.

I know all that. My point is BaFs would not work well with Transformers and why what we have so may price points do we need BaFs to get bigger bots?

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.


Totally agreed... although if they ever did it again I probably ~would~ just go for it, but I'm quite easy to entice with ~any~ plastic robots... probably why I have like 6 different movie-mold 'Bees.

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