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@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 06:34 AM)

Not even close.

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 05:51 AM)

What, Mayhem isn't random enough???

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 04:02 AM)

This place never feels random enough in that respect.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:10 AM)

I thought that was snarking at random strangers without fear of retribution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:22 PM)

Topic-specific threads are the main feature of messageboards like this, you know.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:21 PM)

You should ask that in the TFWiki thread.


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#1 Philister

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:10 AM


For more pics, click on the image above

Prelude: Many thanks to my good buddy James aka Caked-Up, who gave me Soundwave here for my birthday this year.

Robot Mode: First off, Prime Soundwave very closely resembles the character we see on the TV screen, to get that out of the way. Some details may be off, but overall the likeness is spot on. No complaints on that front. And while the resemblance to either G1 Soundwave (the original) or War for Cybertron Soundwave (who's supposed to be the same guy) is very much non-existent, I do not have a problem with that. Prime Soundwave is his own character and he looks very cool.

Second, who here remembers the Breast Force? Yes, there actually was an official Transformes subgroup called Breast Force. They appeared (naturally) in Japan as part of the Victory toyline and Prime Soundwave here is an honorary member. Just like those ill-named robots of yore, he has a smaller partner integrated into his chest, Laserbeak. Unlike the cassette tapes of G1 days, Laserbeak actually becomes part of his chest here instead of just being inside it. The design here is very nicely done as Soundwave manages to look good with and without the bird-chestplate. Laserbeak himself is a rather simplified version of a robotic bird and can't do much more than flap his wings a bit, but as an extra for Soundwave he works very well.

Soundwave does have some problems, though. First off, the head. It looks very nice, no doubt, but it's a crime in my opinion that his big face plate is just painted instead of transparent with light piping. It's supposed to light up, people. I have no doubt that Reprolabels will sooner or later bring out a face sticker for Soundwave (possibly several), but this was a missed opportunity right here.

Second flaw, the legs. While Soundwave has nicely articulated arms (no small feat considering they are the wings of his alternate mode), the legs are a different matter. They can move freely at the hip, but the knees are backwards-bending and move only very, very little. Which makes dynamic poses rather difficult for this guy. One might argue that Soundwave isn't supposed to pose dramatically, he's supposed to stand in the background and look menacing, but still. More leg movement would have been appreciated.

Overall Soundwave is a very cool-looking robot who nicely portrays the TV character, but with (I believe) some simple changes he could have been a lot better.

Alternate Mode: Soundwave transforms into a so-called UAV, an unmanned aerial vehicle strongly resembling a Predator drone (as seen in the first live-action Transformers movie). The positive side here are the wings, which very nicely convert from the robot mode arms, and the front portion, which is formed from the robot legs. Sadly the rest of the vehicle is not up to par, as the middle and rear of the jet retains the ?alien tech? look of the robot mode and doesn?t really fit with the rest. There are no obvious robot bits, but it still looks more like an alien space craft than a man-made recon drone.

The drone has a front landing gear, but the rear end rests on parts of the robot mode. Also, Laserbeak can either remain integrated into Soundwave?s chest (now the lower rear of the drone) or be attached to the top of the drone. The latter looks cool, but makes it look even more alien than it already is. So bottom line: a functional vehicle mode that nicely disguises the robot, but with some shortcomings.

Remarks: Ever since Movie Bumblebee, it seems to have become hip to include at least one non-verbal character on each team who communicates only through sound bites, if at all. Soundwave has yet to speak in Transformers Prime, though he does manage to be pretty cool regardless and established himself as a heavyweight by soundly humiliating Airracchnid during her short-lived attempt at Decepticon leadership. Here?s hoping he?ll do more of that in season 2 and less standing-around on the bridge of the Nemesis.

Soundwave as a toy is really a bit of a mixed blessing. The emphasis here was clearly on bringing the cool look of the robot from the TV series into toy form and in that it succeeds. Soundwave looks really cool as a robot and while the drone mode has some short comings, it still looks good. Unfortunately Soundwave also comes with several drawbacks that, in my mind, could have been avoided. Little things like the face-screen having no light piping gimmick, only half a landing gear in vehicle mode, or the lack of proper leg articulation in robot mode. Little things all, but they add up. So in closing I?d say yes, you should get Soundwave, but more because he?s part of the cartoon?s main cast rather than the toy?s own merits.

Rating: B-

#2 mx-01 archon

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:49 AM

His face isn't clear? WTF
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:57 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Apr 4 2012, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His face isn't clear? WTF


Truth be told I can't determine for myself if it is or isn't. I do wish it had light piping though.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Apr 3 2012, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.


Very true for Skystalker, but I saw one of these parked on the flight line at the 2010 Jacksonville Air Show and it has landing gear so I am kind of sad they couldn't put two more wheels somewhere.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

His lightpipe piece is moulded in dark gray plastic with silver paint on it, and his face area is painted as a seperate application with semi gloss black, possibly transparent.

They could have moulded his lightpipe peice in a clear color, and just paint his face the same way, but leave an unpainted 'soundwave' light bar accross it.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:41 PM

I guess I just assumed he would have the light piping. Can't think of a figure where it would have ever made more sense. Naturally I am sure that is why he doesn't have it.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, confused me too, I took his head apart for detailing, and he was clearly engineered to have a light pipe effect.



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