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@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 11:21 PM)

@Cabooceratops So was what I said. :D

@  Cabooceratops : (12 February 2016 - 09:10 PM)

It's called a joke, Polkatron, you may have heard of the concept?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 08:06 PM)

@Nutjob R/T @TheMightyMollusk Yesh are you Baybots thinking so litteral?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 02:41 PM)

Optimus makes a lousy helmet.

@  Nutjob R/T : (12 February 2016 - 02:11 PM)

Wait when did Optimus Prime fly off the top of your head?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 01:55 PM)

@Paladin @TheMightyMollusk @NotVeryKnightly Dumb dumb dumb on Hasbros part. Optimus flew withing the first three episodes of the G1 cartoon. No not the glide flight thing that only Deceps uses after that I mean the jetpack part. Plus I can site four other times he flew off the top of my head.

@  Boomhauer : (12 February 2016 - 12:45 PM)

Optimus already got to fly in RID's Season finale, though one could argue he was just falling with style instead of flying properly.

@  Rycochet : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

The Unicron Trilogy had awful shows but some really neat toys even if it did get off to a shaky start with some of the unnecessarily flawed Armada stuff.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

Didn't he fly in Beast Hunters?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 11:58 AM)

What about Animated?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:55 AM)

Someone who never saw the Unicron Trilogy. God do I envy them....

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 11:49 AM)

...Hasbro's billing that new "Power Surge Optimus Prime" as "the first time Optimus takes flight." who thought THAT sounded right....

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:34 AM)

More likely, they'll all follow the same visual style to retain brand coherency. The most you could hope for is better writing, but don't hold your breath.

@  Dracula : (12 February 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Cool. Bay can't possibly direct all of those. Maybe we'll get someone else's vision of what a TF movie could look like.

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 10:14 AM)

ugh. we're apparently getting 1 TF film A YEAR starting 2017. and Bumblebee gets a spinoff film...

@  Plokatron : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 PM)

Guess no one has the comic then. Blast I need that close up of Ironhide's helmet!

@  Arazyr : (11 February 2016 - 01:41 PM)

Happy Birthday, young'un. 8^)

@  D Buster Prime : (11 February 2016 - 01:21 PM)

It's my BIRTHDAY! I'm 35 years young!

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 10:54 AM)

nah! it's Venus that's going to Botcon!

@  Paladin : (11 February 2016 - 10:45 AM)

could've also meant Cree Summer...

@  Dracula : (11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM)

Good going, Blackarachnia. I heard it's been hard for her to get roles after Hasbro brought in Airachnid.

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 06:34 AM)

you mean Venus Terzo! she's supposed to be going to Botcon

@  Whirl Maximus : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 AM)

Blackarachnia was on Supernatural last night.

@  Plokatron : (10 February 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Ponderous slagging ponderous. Hey anyone got some good Hi-res captures of Ironhide in Infestation? I really need close ups of his head for reference on a project.

@  Plokatron : (09 February 2016 - 10:46 PM)

Ok now this is funny. I ordered a used copy of HoS GN and the one I got was a library copy once. It's marked Union County on it. Thats my home county. :D It never was in my library though. Mine is named after the man who built it not the town or county but still kinda funny.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 February 2016 - 09:44 PM)

Is it sad I read "KF7 Soviet" as "KFC7 Soviet"?

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM)

Neat.

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 03:35 PM)

A what? Oh, you must mean a KF7 Soviet. Common mistake.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Can I just get an AK-47 instead?

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 02:35 PM)

this is form 47-a. you want form 47-A. start again

@  MEDdMI : (09 February 2016 - 02:07 PM)

Now you didn't fill the form in black or blue ink. Do it again.

@  Rycochet : (09 February 2016 - 02:04 PM)

You made a typo on the first page of the forms, you're going to have to go back and fill the whole form out again, from first to final.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 01:31 PM)

"bats"

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 01:09 PM)

Nice and soft, you say? This isn't even my final form!!!!

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 12:47 PM)

its nice and soft like YOU dracula *bats eyelashes* and thatll probly be the last thing i post in this thing now lol

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 08:52 AM)

It's course and rough...wait that doesn't work

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 08:43 AM)

It gets everywhere?

@  Paladin : (09 February 2016 - 07:57 AM)

i hate snow.

@  BillBarclay : (08 February 2016 - 04:58 PM)

btw one of the Transformers Victory intro's(not the original music used) on YouTube uses one of the pieces of music used on the US version of Transformers Armada

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:55 PM)

You should read it again, it gets better with age!

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 03:46 PM)

I am fully aware of that story and mentioning it carries the penalty of fifty towel snaps.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:31 PM)

Shh, it's a trap!

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2016 - 02:48 PM)

See, you said "awesome" and "The Beast" in the same sentence, and I think you broke my mind with the contradiction.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:42 PM)

No-one tell Whirl about the awesome dinobot combiner, The Beast.

@  Plokatron : (08 February 2016 - 02:37 PM)

@Dracula Uh oh were in trouble.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:36 PM)

If you think that's cool, wait until you see what other stuff we're hiding from you.

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 02:33 PM)

Transformers Victory's intro is awesome. And not one of you told me.... WHY?!!!

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

It doesn't count those using it on other pages.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

If it's the one by IPB Shoutbox, it means the number of people who are viewing the Shoutbox page.

@  tffan01 : (08 February 2016 - 10:34 AM)

Where's the red numbers?


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#1 Philister

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:10 AM


For more pics, click on the image above

Prelude: Many thanks to my good buddy James aka Caked-Up, who gave me Soundwave here for my birthday this year.

Robot Mode: First off, Prime Soundwave very closely resembles the character we see on the TV screen, to get that out of the way. Some details may be off, but overall the likeness is spot on. No complaints on that front. And while the resemblance to either G1 Soundwave (the original) or War for Cybertron Soundwave (who's supposed to be the same guy) is very much non-existent, I do not have a problem with that. Prime Soundwave is his own character and he looks very cool.

Second, who here remembers the Breast Force? Yes, there actually was an official Transformes subgroup called Breast Force. They appeared (naturally) in Japan as part of the Victory toyline and Prime Soundwave here is an honorary member. Just like those ill-named robots of yore, he has a smaller partner integrated into his chest, Laserbeak. Unlike the cassette tapes of G1 days, Laserbeak actually becomes part of his chest here instead of just being inside it. The design here is very nicely done as Soundwave manages to look good with and without the bird-chestplate. Laserbeak himself is a rather simplified version of a robotic bird and can't do much more than flap his wings a bit, but as an extra for Soundwave he works very well.

Soundwave does have some problems, though. First off, the head. It looks very nice, no doubt, but it's a crime in my opinion that his big face plate is just painted instead of transparent with light piping. It's supposed to light up, people. I have no doubt that Reprolabels will sooner or later bring out a face sticker for Soundwave (possibly several), but this was a missed opportunity right here.

Second flaw, the legs. While Soundwave has nicely articulated arms (no small feat considering they are the wings of his alternate mode), the legs are a different matter. They can move freely at the hip, but the knees are backwards-bending and move only very, very little. Which makes dynamic poses rather difficult for this guy. One might argue that Soundwave isn't supposed to pose dramatically, he's supposed to stand in the background and look menacing, but still. More leg movement would have been appreciated.

Overall Soundwave is a very cool-looking robot who nicely portrays the TV character, but with (I believe) some simple changes he could have been a lot better.

Alternate Mode: Soundwave transforms into a so-called UAV, an unmanned aerial vehicle strongly resembling a Predator drone (as seen in the first live-action Transformers movie). The positive side here are the wings, which very nicely convert from the robot mode arms, and the front portion, which is formed from the robot legs. Sadly the rest of the vehicle is not up to par, as the middle and rear of the jet retains the ?alien tech? look of the robot mode and doesn?t really fit with the rest. There are no obvious robot bits, but it still looks more like an alien space craft than a man-made recon drone.

The drone has a front landing gear, but the rear end rests on parts of the robot mode. Also, Laserbeak can either remain integrated into Soundwave?s chest (now the lower rear of the drone) or be attached to the top of the drone. The latter looks cool, but makes it look even more alien than it already is. So bottom line: a functional vehicle mode that nicely disguises the robot, but with some shortcomings.

Remarks: Ever since Movie Bumblebee, it seems to have become hip to include at least one non-verbal character on each team who communicates only through sound bites, if at all. Soundwave has yet to speak in Transformers Prime, though he does manage to be pretty cool regardless and established himself as a heavyweight by soundly humiliating Airracchnid during her short-lived attempt at Decepticon leadership. Here?s hoping he?ll do more of that in season 2 and less standing-around on the bridge of the Nemesis.

Soundwave as a toy is really a bit of a mixed blessing. The emphasis here was clearly on bringing the cool look of the robot from the TV series into toy form and in that it succeeds. Soundwave looks really cool as a robot and while the drone mode has some short comings, it still looks good. Unfortunately Soundwave also comes with several drawbacks that, in my mind, could have been avoided. Little things like the face-screen having no light piping gimmick, only half a landing gear in vehicle mode, or the lack of proper leg articulation in robot mode. Little things all, but they add up. So in closing I?d say yes, you should get Soundwave, but more because he?s part of the cartoon?s main cast rather than the toy?s own merits.

Rating: B-

#2 mx-01 archon

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.

#3 DINOBOT SLUDGE

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:49 AM

His face isn't clear? WTF
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:57 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Apr 4 2012, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His face isn't clear? WTF


Truth be told I can't determine for myself if it is or isn't. I do wish it had light piping though.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Apr 3 2012, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.


Very true for Skystalker, but I saw one of these parked on the flight line at the 2010 Jacksonville Air Show and it has landing gear so I am kind of sad they couldn't put two more wheels somewhere.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

His lightpipe piece is moulded in dark gray plastic with silver paint on it, and his face area is painted as a seperate application with semi gloss black, possibly transparent.

They could have moulded his lightpipe peice in a clear color, and just paint his face the same way, but leave an unpainted 'soundwave' light bar accross it.

#7 DINOBOT SLUDGE

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:41 PM

I guess I just assumed he would have the light piping. Can't think of a figure where it would have ever made more sense. Naturally I am sure that is why he doesn't have it.
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#8 Llwynoh

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, confused me too, I took his head apart for detailing, and he was clearly engineered to have a light pipe effect.



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