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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.


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#1 Walky

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:21 AM

https://twitter.com/...363684854476801

Huh. All those guys, save Scoop, have new Generations toys. Hmmm.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:26 AM

What an amazing coincidence!!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

Care to attach the image?

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

So you're saying Scoop dies.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:31 AM

QUOTE(LV! @ Mar 29 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you're saying Scoop dies.


...yeah, that was a concern.

And, no, I'm posting from my phone in an airport. I can't attach the image, even if I care to.

#6 Chris McFeely

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:33 AM

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:34 AM

There's no non-UT mold to get a new Scoop from, is there.

Uh oh.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

Well, that appears to be a recolored Cybertron Landmine right there...

EDIT: Oh, no, I tell a lie, those are just his hinges, not folded-back exhaust pipes... plus, y'know, no other details lining up...

Edited by Chris McFeely, 29 March 2012 - 09:37 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Mar 29 2012, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, that appears to be a recolored Cybertron Landmine right there...

EDIT: Oh, no, I tell a lie, those are just his hinges, not folded-back exhaust pipes... plus, y'know, no other details lining up...


I too dispute your claim!

Ah well. At least Scoop dies knowing Wheeljack's blacks are gloriously Marvel blue.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

It was his forehead! They've both for that big wide "brow guard" up there. Deceived me.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:42 AM

Scoop and his Double Targetmasters getting face time? Awesome.

Scoop and his Double Targetmasters as cannonfodder/bodycount filler? Terrible.

Scoop and his Double Targetmasters prefiguring an upcoming FP toy? Interesting. Possibly cool depending on how it might be pulled off. I'll be honest as characters I find the two Nebulans kinda more interesting than Scoop.

Scoop with Double Targetmaster partners as an early hint at a Hasbro 2013 toy = Awesome, but very VERY speculative.


-ZacWilliam, has some nostalgia for Scoop from his childhood owning him, but there are a lot of toys from that year I'd be even more excited about...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:47 AM

That artwork is clearly based on the G1 toy. Scoop's a goner.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Mar 29 2012, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That artwork is clearly based on the G1 toy. Scoop's a goner.


By that logic EVERYONE in the image besides Metalhawk is a goner. icon-waspy.gif


-ZacWilliam, All G1 models NOT based on modern toys if ya look...


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:49 AM

Love the artwork, but yeah: Scoop is digging his own grave.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:49 AM

I am gonna give you all this one little reveal. We'll call it an Allspark exclusive... I guess I should throw up a Spoiler tag.

HIGHLIGHT to view:
Scoop does not get a new body

Scoop is not cannon fodder

Scoop is just... Scoop

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:51 AM

YAY!

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:51 AM

Yeah I don't like it how everyone presumes a G1 guy is going to die if he appears in his G1 body. We've had plenty of G1 guys in G1 bodies showing up in Fun Pub stories before.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:52 AM

But we LIKE jumping to conclusions. Don't take our fun! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:53 AM

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 29 2012, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I don't like it how everyone presumes a G1 guy is going to die if he appears in his G1 body. We've had plenty of G1 guys in G1 bodies showing up in Fun Pub stories before.


Tha's not exactly why folks were worried. EVERYONE in that shot is in their original body, after all. Scoop was just the only one without a new current toy.



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