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@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.


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#1 BB Shockwave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:10 AM

Just being pro-active and starting a thread. icon-hotrod.gif If my time and health allows it, I want to be there on the opening day.

Being a huge greek mythology nerd, I loved the previous movie too, despite its inaccuracies. And the new movie showcases some characters and beasties that we haven't seen on screen much, if ever. I especially found it interesting that we're gonna see Machae, Hades' soldiers, and that they actually look quite like in the game Titan Quest... which also deals with a Titan getting set loose (granted, Typhon being a Titan is debatable).

I don't think I will watch it in 3D, though. I am getting sick of these pointless effects. John Carter was totally OK without them as well.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:24 AM



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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:29 AM

........WIN.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:32 AM

hug! I thought I was caught up.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 04:29 AM

The new Clash was released in 2010?

Dang, time flies. I could have sworn it was just in theaters.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:45 AM

It was a mess. Ugh.

The maze didn't make sense. They missed easy parallels for the father and son stuff. Chronos didn't look too good.

Cool weapons tho, with all the sparks effects when people hold it.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:35 AM

Is Chronos the lava-monster shown in the trailers? I thought that'd by Typhon... Oh well.

Will watch it on Friday. I already love the design of the Chimera, would be nice if this movie series got a toyline...
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

Lava monster's Chronos, yes.

Sigh. John Carter was better made. Wrath felt too messy to me.

#9 BB Shockwave

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 02:23 PM

Saw it today - IMAX 3D as there was no 2D screening, but 3D was surprisingly good. Got a bit of a nausea even at the Underworld transition scene from vertigo!

It was a good movie. Not great, not amazing - solid, OK, mythological action flick with a story that had no Bay-like plot holes, and likeable characters. But as Fero said, not comparable to John Carter. Some points:

- Perseus does go through a lot in these two movies, and it takes 2 movies for him to come to terms with the fact that he will never have an 'average' life, neither can his son be a simple fisherman. This was more well thought-out then most such movies ever do, and a good solid ending.
- The "put on the bus" death of Io between movies was quite harsh, but I guess Aterton never signed on for the sequel.
- What really sold the movie for me was the relationship between Zeus and Hades - Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes were at their best. Hades already seemed to have a good reason for revenge on his brother(s) in the first movie, and here were get more background on this, but Zeus also became less arrogant and more reasonable due to his relationship with a half-human son... In a total flip of the "Everyone Hates Hades" TVTrope, Hades not only HIGHLIGHT to view:
does a heel-face-turn after Zeus asks for his forgiveness, even healing his brother from his injuries, he survives the movie - and is the only god left alive at the end! Which is much closer to his original mythological portrayal.
- Ares is one of the real big bads of the movie (the trailers nicely spoil this), and he lives up to his reputation as the god of war. His relationship towards his father and half-brother were also good points of the movie, and his final fight with Perseus was well-executed, showing what the difference between a half-god and a real god is. Loved his mace...
-On the other hand, Agenor was a very half-arsed attempt at a comedic sidekick character, who never really does anything memorable, Andromeda felt shoehorned in, especially her last minute romance with Perseus, and Bill Nighy as Hephaistos was a totally wasted shot. I dunno whose bright idea was that the smith of the gods should have a split personality...
-The movie again had some cool visuals, the maze around Tartaros was amazing.
-The creatures - like the previous one, this too takes some liberties, but still ends up better then Tarsem Singh's "Immortals". Loved some of the designs, and many of them were very faithful to the myths. The Chimera... or rather, Chimeras (there are many of them) were quite realistic as far as three-headed bat-winged monsters go, loved the way the flame breath worked (goat head spews flammeable liquid, lion head lights it). The Machae were cool, the Minotaur less so (a fat guy with horns, pretty much - and with odd illusionary powers). But I was most sold on the three Cyclopes. Arges, Brontes and Steropes (not named, but were obviously them) truly conveyed their immense size in the forest battle, using brute force as well as traps in the fight, and the best part was, it turns out HIGHLIGHT to view:
that like in the myth, they are not really evil, just brutish - they end up leading the gang to Hephaistos after the intial misunderstandings. Cronos looked... well, more like I'd imagine Typhon, but like the Kraken, he was immense. Loved the lava attacks that solidifies into volcanic rock in the air.

The ending is not a fully happy one, and I frankly don't think they could continue the movies from this point, but hey, Michael Bay will do TF4 despite all Decepticons being killed off and Cybertron destroyed, so who knows.

One thing's for sure, I'll now sit down and watch some Class of the Titans episodes, and do some Epic Typhon/Hades runs in Titan Quest (if anyone's up for a multiplay, give me a PM). icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

My dad saw it but he said he didn't like it. He's kind of hit or miss though so I'm still going to give it a shot. Is this an actual sequel to Clash or just derivative of the lore?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:55 AM

Actual sequel, all the actors (save Ares) are the same.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:39 AM

I might see it, but I hope there's a 2-D showing around here. I have nothing against 3-D, and even own a 3DTV and about 20-odd 3-D Blu-Rays; but I've never been impressed by a post-converted live-action 3-D flick. It's different for CG movies like Toy Story 1 & 2; or even traditional animation like The Lion King or Beauty and the Beast, since Disney still had all the original separate work to aid in the creation of a 3-D version. But I saw Clash of the Titans, also post-converted, in 3-D and regretted paying the premium.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

I enjoyed the film, Kronos was amazing.


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:31 AM

Shumworld - All I can say to that, especially after watching Class of the Titans lately, is "Yeessss..." in David Kaye's voice (he plays Cronus (sic!) in the cartoon).

TM2-Megs: This one is actually not post-converted, I think. I saw it in Imax 3D, and some scenes like the labyrinth around Tartaros were incredible.

Granted, I too prefer 2D, all in all. Mostly because 3D glasses make the screen darker, at least for me. Plus wearing them over my actual glasses is uncomfortable.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:42 AM

Yeah, I saw it in 2d. It was exactly what I thought it would be, so I wasn't disappointed.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 04:24 AM

Did the Cyclopes kill any of the soldiers? It wasn't too clear (messy).

Yeah, I'm still disappointed on the maze. It was suppose to be a greatest puzzle of all and fueled by your greatest fear then what did they do to get past it? Sheesh.

I know the movie isnt real mythology but Hephaestus is the son of Hera (and Zeus?) so how could he have built the triple spear to beat Kronos when he shouldn't even exist at that time? Unless Kronos escaped several times.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:44 AM

Nah, they just kicked them into the trees. I thought they killed one of the women, but she shows up again later just to be killed by Ares.

I think it's not as unfeasible that Hephaistos existed even back then. Gods are not born like humans... And btw, he is the son of Hera, and only Hera. She got jealous when Zeus created Pallas Athene (again, oddly absent from the movie) as a divine spark from his head, so she tried the same. But Hephaistos was so ugly, she threw him off from Olympus... hence the limp, he broke his leg when he fell.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Hephaestus has different origins depending on the author.. In one account he's the full son of Hera and Zeus, in another spawned by Hera's jealousy of Athena, and yet a third, he split Zeus's skull so Athena could be born...

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:52 AM

The last one is quite new to me as well. But I think the most widely accepted one is that Hera is the mother and only parent. I think that's what the romans adopted for Vulcanus as well. (Darn copycats! icon-fire.gif)
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