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@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 06:34 AM)

Not even close.

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 05:51 AM)

What, Mayhem isn't random enough???

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 04:02 AM)

This place never feels random enough in that respect.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:10 AM)

I thought that was snarking at random strangers without fear of retribution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:22 PM)

Topic-specific threads are the main feature of messageboards like this, you know.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:21 PM)

You should ask that in the TFWiki thread.


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#1 Nanite

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

I'm starting this thread to keep my moping away from others.

I'm bitter, and done with Transformers until Hasbro gets their act together. The nice pile of Asian exclusives just pushed me over the edge. New heads, classic decos, and no sign that they'll be released in the US.

Plus the Fanclub mess, plus the canceled toys, plus Prime's future up in the air, plus distribution headaches, plus rising prices for less product, plus quality control problems, plus all the exclusives that disappeared.

It's all piling up.

I'm seeing Generations toys getting clearanced too, so in my parinoia, I expect that the stuff on shelves now is all we're going to see until the fall, all I see being solicited are Prime wave 2 stuff (already seeing it hit), and Botshots.

Glimmer of light: Botshots are still fun, and seemingly have plenty of new product in the pipeline.

Again, I don't want to bring anyone else down, but I wanted to vent.


Edited by Nanite, 29 January 2014 - 03:52 PM.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:22 PM

im completely with you.

i've already started redistributing my TF money towards other things...the current Prime figures dont hold much interest for me...theyre good, just not what i want right now.

Knowing theres a heap of stuffs id have to import and pay more for than i reasonably should, annoys me to no end.

Im usually the guy who likes everything and tries to enjoy most stuff...but when it seems the company that holds the future of my hobby in its grip is basically telling me im not important ( i know how that sounds, work with me people. =])...well, that bothers me.

New product that keeps me interested is something honestly important to me...it gives me something to look forward to, and believe me, i dont have much like that anymore...im praying that BOTCON holds information that will turn my frown upside down, but ive learned never to get my hopes up.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

Apparently people prefer that those of us with similar opinions be shunted to this thread, so I suppose I shall post here.

Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S, and it doesn't help that Prime is still making the kind of Boneheaded mistakes it made in Season 1.

I love Transformers too much to go anywhere, but I am sorely disappointed with the current direction of the franchise.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...

I love Transformers too much to go anywhere, but I am sorely disappointed with the current direction of the franchise.


Indeed.

Hasbro in general seems to be flailing a bit. 160 people were just laid off, profits are down, and all of their lines have some serious oddities this year.

I'm especially baffled that the focus for Transformers is shifting to Asia, and now the US domestic market is being treated as badly as Hasbro UK.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently people prefer that those of us with similar opinions be shunted to this thread, so I suppose I shall post here.

Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S, and it doesn't help that Prime is still making the kind of Boneheaded mistakes it made in Season 1.

I love Transformers too much to go anywhere, but I am sorely disappointed with the current direction of the franchise.


Erm... "season 1"? Toy distributions don't have seasons, dear. icon-depth.gif

Your Freudian slippage concerning your persnicketiness about the Prime show translating into every aspect of Transformers in general for you is noted. icon-hotrod.gif

Anyway, I absolutely LOVE the show, but the toy distributions are starting to piss me off to no end as well. DOTM Que and Deluxe Soundwave RECOLORS STILL in Asia irks my fist through a wall, and Asia FE awesomes vs. American RiD jivee makes me wonder if China suddenly purchased Hasbro and is now catering towards their demographic regions with better toys on purpose.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE(Thunderhead @ Mar 12 2012, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently people prefer that those of us with similar opinions be shunted to this thread, so I suppose I shall post here.

Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S, and it doesn't help that Prime is still making the kind of Boneheaded mistakes it made in Season 1.

I love Transformers too much to go anywhere, but I am sorely disappointed with the current direction of the franchise.


Erm... "season 1"? Toy distributions don't have seasons, dear. icon-depth.gif

Your Freudian slippage concerning your persnicketiness about the Prime show translating into every aspect of Transformers in general for you is noted. icon-hotrod.gif


Err, I was specifically referring to the show and *its* Boneheaded mistakes.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:52 PM

I completely sympathize with the sentiment here. I've been an adult collector for 9 yeas now and this is the first time I've really felt that Hasbro is failing at what they do.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

I share the sentiment of disappointment. That I had to spend what I did to secure toys that I like that should have been available at retail really burns. It's a rediculous position to put fans in. I do understand that jive happens, but I do wonder if there was more that could have been done outside of lining ebay seller's pockets for the next few years.

I'm still here, I'm still a fan, but I'll be damned it I throw out that kind of money for toys that I should have had no trouble finding at retail again .

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently people prefer that those of us with similar opinions be shunted to this thread, so I suppose I shall post here.

Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S, and it doesn't help that Prime is still making the kind of Boneheaded mistakes it made in Season 1.

I love Transformers too much to go anywhere, but I am sorely disappointed with the current direction of the franchise.


Erm... "season 1"? Toy distributions don't have seasons, dear. icon-depth.gif

Your Freudian slippage concerning your persnicketiness about the Prime show translating into every aspect of Transformers in general for you is noted. icon-hotrod.gif


Err, I was specifically referring to the show and *its* Boneheaded mistakes.


Please elaborate! We're here for you Fwiff!

I think it's strange that case-packouts are so focused on Bumblebee, even though he barely registers on the show. I specifically didn't say that in the bumblebee thread because it's a whole 'nother can of worms.

Armchair conclusions for Toyfair reinforce my misgivings about the Brand. There was little clarity: 8 Generations toys this year? 14? Bruticus is going to be in what colors? Is he scramble-city style? When for any of this stuff? What happened with FE, exactly? Why are so many products being moved to Asia exclusives?
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:57 PM

Okay, so this can be the Sour Grapes thread.


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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S


People really need to learn that the retailers are entirely separate entities from Hasbro, and ultimately, Hasbro kowtows to them.

Hasbro just wants to sell toys. If the toys aren't getting put on the shelves to be sold, then Hasbro's not getting what it wants, either.


As for the "Asian market exclusives", this is nothing new. It's just that Hasbro Asia's being more aggressive in this latest approach, with more original content. But previously, there were things like the Classics Prime/Magnus two-pack, and the Grimlock/Jetfire two-pack. I'm pretty sure the Buster Prime/Jetfire two-packs were Hasbro Asia as opposed to Takara. And also Year of the Dragon Ultimate Prime.


This is Hasbro Asia acting on its own and pushing the brand in its own market, and is not reflective of the plans of the North American branch, just as how Hasbro UK doesn't always act in accordance with the head office (except that they tend to simply cancel product, rather than create their own exclusives...).

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:18 PM

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:40 PM

I wonder what the fandom climate would have been like if the internet were a thing back during the "Euro G1" release?

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 12 2012, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hasbro's made some COLOSSAL mistakes recently. From FE to 'Asia Exclusives' to the jivity Prime molds to SO MANY DAMN BUMBLEBEE'S

As for the "Asian market exclusives", this is nothing new. It's just that Hasbro Asia's being more aggressive in this latest approach, with more original content. But previously, there were things like the Classics Prime/Magnus two-pack, and the Grimlock/Jetfire two-pack. I'm pretty sure the Buster Prime/Jetfire two-packs were Hasbro Asia as opposed to Takara. And also Year of the Dragon Ultimate Prime.


I'm fairly sure making an entire line that was originally planned to be released in the US, to the point where they publically announced toys and showed off toys from it in American markets, an Asia exclusive is new. And Bad.

I still can't believe I'm not getting a DotM Leadfoot, Wheeljack or Soundwave, much less a Mirage. That's just plain awful.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:47 PM

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I wonder what the fandom climate would have been like if the internet were a thing back during the "Euro G1" release?


Considering that left the franchise dead for couple years...

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

I'm waiting until later in the year before I make any real judgement on the whole FE issue, myself. Hasbro said they'd release them, and unlike the Animated toyline have a line that will be continuing that they can slot the FE molds in.

The Movie Trilogy Line is the most disappointing thing so far, for me, since we likely won't get an alternative in the US in the near future.

I'm not mad about the Asia exclusives, there's no evidence that it was ever meant for the US, and if Hasbro Asia wants to make awesome exclusives for their market, then that's cool with me.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

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Wait, when did they say that? These repaints came out of the blue.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:51 PM

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I'm fairly sure making an entire line that was originally planned to be released in the US


Wait, when did they say that? These repaints came out of the blue.


The G1 Wheeljack and Soundwave? I'm positive those were announced by the end of last year for a Movie Trilogy line to be released in the US. Evac was supposed to be part of that line too.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

I have a little money tucked away for TFs but my main focus is paying for my trip to NYC.

but i'll pull out a 16-20$ for a neat TF like Breakdown, Knock Out or Soundwave. The others can wait until I get to the TRU in NYC.

and it is dissapointing about line cancellations like DOTM HA. Soundwave and Dylan+lazerbeak is frikken neat. and for TFP first edition im set with my Takara first edition Bulkhead my father picked up from Japan.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:58 PM

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I'm fairly sure making an entire line that was originally planned to be released in the US


Wait, when did they say that? These repaints came out of the blue.


The G1 Wheeljack and Soundwave? I'm positive those were announced by the end of last year for a Movie Trilogy line to be released in the US. Evac was supposed to be part of that line too.


Wait, so you're chucking a tizzy about two guys? just import them.

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