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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Ironbite

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:51 AM

I...really don't know how to say this so I'll say it like this.

Joy, my fianc?e, left me this morning. While I was out on the paper route she had. I say had because after today, I'm no longer going to be running it for her. But yeah...she up and left. So yeah there's 10 years down the drain.

So please excuse me if I sound a little bit angry in my posts right now. I'm...not in a good place.

Ironbite-in fact I'm feeling fairly sick.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:06 PM

Ohhhhh........dude, that SUCKS so much. icon-screamer.gif

Extra classy leaving you while YOU were doing HER job.

Everything must feel so huged up right now, I am quite at loss of words.

May I ask, what this something that was "long time coming" or were it out of the blue?

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#3 Ironbite

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:33 PM

Apparently it was something that was a long time coming...at least on her end. For me, this was out of the blue. Sorta. I kinda felt this was coming but didn't expect this to happen today.

Ironbite-I dunno, just hate the fact that I wasted all this time and with nothing to show for it.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:36 PM

I'm so sorry to hear this, IB. If I could come up with something to say that would make this suck any less, I would.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:36 PM

Jeeze, did she give a reason? Did she tell you to your face or was she just gone?

Is there someone else you didn't know about that she was seeing behind your back?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:36 PM

ouch
I hope things get better for you
I been there myself so I know theres not a lot we can say thats truely gonna pick you up
But we can try

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:38 PM

I know and you were there for me when she broke up with me before hand. I honestly shouldn't have tried to get back with her but...first relationship and all that.

Ironbite-I've got a plan and I'm gonna be ok...just gotta take this one day at a hand.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Mar 10 2012, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jeeze, did she give a reason? Did she tell you to your face or was she just gone?

Is there someone else you didn't know about that she was seeing behind your back?

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No nothing. There was nothing that would indicate this. This was, "oh go do my paper route and when you get back I'll be gone". So yeah. Done with that noise.

Ironbite-it's the crappiest I've felt in a long long time.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 10 2012, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently it was something that was a long time coming...at least on her end. For me, this was out of the blue. Sorta. I kinda felt this was coming but didn't expect this to happen today.

Ironbite-I dunno, just hate the fact that I wasted all this time and with nothing to show for it.

I'm really sorry for you but I gotta say if this is you're reaction to it then it's probably for the better.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

I'm gonna cry. Not gonna lie. I don't think this was fair to me to look me in the eye and go "I'm not leaving you" and then...leave me. So there's that.

The worst part is no note. Oh she said she wrote a letter but...yeah. Nothing so far. I'm just hurt so much by this.

Ironbite-but I'm not gonna do something stupid or anything so don't fret about that.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:54 PM

You wanna cry? Go cry. Rant, rave, break something even.

And when you're done: you'll better having that off your chest. And then you'll realize that you're older and wiser now, with more experience and in a better position from her having left. Plus, probably better than after you got married, what with her walking with half your stuff.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

#1 defacto reason not to get married aint no woman gonna own half my stuff just because she desides to leave me

I worked to dam hard on my man cave and no one gonna take it from me

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:01 PM

That's what pre-nups are for tec,

Ironbite, I don't know what to say. I'm really, really sorry to hear this.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Mar 10 2012, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
#1 defacto reason not to get married aint no woman gonna own half my stuff just because she desides to leave me

I worked to dam hard on my man cave and no one gonna take it from me



Completely inappropriate and unhelpful.

Ironbite, the part about this that's most concerning to me is that you have decided that the past decade of your life has been a waste. :/ That is a huge trap that people in long-term relationships get into, and prompts many of them to stay when they really should go. Having a relationship end doesn't invalidate the original decision to start that relationship, nor the time spent together. I am sorry to hear about the previous breakup, and the fact that it doesn't sound like she was satisfied. The ability to change the relationship to her satisfaction was probably not in your power to change, and THAT is the toughest part to swallow. Hurting isn't pleasant, and is expected for someone being dumped. :/ Sucks, dude. I echo the others' suggestions for catharsis.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

You're better off without her.

Just don't dwell on it or writhe in misery. Feel what you need to feel, but just move on. If she left any stuff behind, box it, leave it on the porch, and tell her in a text where it is, and when she can pick it up. Don't answer the door, don't answer the phone.

Also, don't be bitter, not all women will do that to you.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:30 PM

Still doing my part to lighten the mood
Hence the crack about myself and the man cave

No harm to anyone but myself

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

Sorry to hear that Ironbite.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

I went through the same thing Ironbite, losing a ten year long marriage. And I have to say, good riddance to her. Sorrow of having "nothing to show" will just keep you trapped in a dead end relationship.

I know it hurts like hell. You've cried and you're going to cry some more. But once you fight your way through it you're going to come out on the other side stronger than you were before.

Take the chance to build on small steps. Go look up a few friends you haven't talked to in years, probably because your terrible relationship left you too depressed to bother. And, please, if the sadness gets to be too much GET HELP. Don't let it drive you to a damn mental breakdown like it did me. There's no shame if you wind up needing some medicine to help you feel happiness again.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

Aw man that's terrible!

Hrumph, if she didn't have the guts to explain things to you before she left, then a letter will hardly excuse it.

Hang in there man, things will get better. Not quickly nor easily, but they will get better.

And, if nothing else, you have a bunch of great friends here willing to cheer the hell out of you :D

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 10 2012, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently it was something that was a long time coming...at least on her end. For me, this was out of the blue. Sorta. I kinda felt this was coming but didn't expect this to happen today.

Ironbite-I dunno, just hate the fact that I wasted all this time and with nothing to show for it.


Well, thats just awful.

I echo the others here; cry a lot, if you want to, break stuff if needed, and get things off your chest. Maybe even take time off work and go somewhere.

You will survive this. But things are going to feel really huged up for a while.

I will have you in my thoughts, even if I only know you from the Internet.

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