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@  Telly : (27 August 2016 - 11:21 PM)

gonna have to take a trip to dollar general in the next few days

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 09:26 PM)

Seriously, Shout Factory's Beast Wars Season 2 and 3 4 DVD set was at Dollar General for 2.95

@  Robowang : (27 August 2016 - 09:15 PM)

Whaaaaaaaaaat

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 08:29 PM)

Why no, I'm not adversed to getting Beast Wars Seasons 2 and 3 DVD set for 2.95 (At Dollar General)

@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?


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#1 ShadowMan024

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:57 PM

I'm gonna copy and paste what I added to the Fridge Brilliance/Transformers page on TVTropes:

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In most, if not all Transformers series - particularly the Japanese series, the live-action movies and Transformers Prime - the Transformers move with impossible grace and agility despite being Humongous Mecha. However, this can be seen as Fridge Brilliance since, in the movies and the Marvel G1 continuity, Cybertron is MUCH larger than Earth - in Marvel G1, it's stated to be the size of Saturn, while in the movies, it appears to be more the size of a Super-Earth. Logically, Cybertron must have a MUCH higher gravity than Earth due to its greater mass, and so, Transformers are Heavy Worlders - on their home planet, they'd probably have an agility more like a human's, meaning non-rocket-assisted jumps wouldn't be too high. On the much smaller Earth, though, they can run faster, jump higher, and are generally more agile - much like Silver Age Superman.

Plus, unlike most humongous mecha, they aren't built by humans... usually. And since they're machines, they wouldn't suffer the same effects a human would being stranded in a lower-gravity environment.

Edited by Spin Out, 09 March 2012 - 08:59 PM.

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#2 Autobus Prime

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:33 PM

However, Chip Chase...but then, of course, Chip Chase.






#3 Magnusblitz

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:39 PM

I haven't really ever wondered, no... I figure they're bigger but proportional to humans, so they can move at roughly the same speed. Should this not be the case? Would something that size be slowed by mass/density/whatever problems? They can be made out of Cybertronium and run on Energon or whatever so its easy enough to handwave comparisons to human-made machines not having the energy to move so much weight.

Also, Cybertron in Sunbow was about the size of the moon IIRC, maybe even smaller.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

also they are the children of God... so they are not necessarily limited by out understanding of reality
With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

#5 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

It's Just A Show, You Should Really Just Relax~

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:28 PM

High strength, low mass super alloy metals and anti grav tech.
 
 
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#7 The Doctor Who

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:58 AM

Of all the things to obsessively nerd over. I mean, almost every Transformer since the beginning has been a walking physics violation. I mean, if you can get your brain past the mass-shifting, I think the whole 'why do they move so fast' thing should be pretty much a non-issue.

On the other hand I have wondered why certain Transformers can move so quickly despite their comparative size, but it never bothered me too much. I mean, I just watched a motorcycle turn into a huge female robot, I can hardly start picking nits at that point.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:05 AM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Mar 9 2012, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's Just A Show, You Should Really Just Relax~

Words of wisdom.

#9 Bug-Saw

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Mar 10 2012, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean, almost every Transformer since the beginning has been a walking physics violation.

I honestly think people take the laws of physics too seriously. Isn't the whole point of science is to keep an open mind since there's never 100% proof for the certainty of anything?

#10 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:05 AM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Mar 10 2012, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly think people take the laws of physics too seriously.

I know! I float off into the sky and pass through solid walls every Tuesday night, and you don't see the Science Police coming and busting me. It's just not that big of a deal.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Mar 10 2012, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly think people take the laws of physics too seriously. Isn't the whole point of science is to keep an open mind since there's never 100% proof for the certainty of anything?

If keep your mind open open that far, your brains will fall out.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Mar 10 2012, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Mar 10 2012, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean, almost every Transformer since the beginning has been a walking physics violation.

I honestly think people take the laws of physics too seriously. Isn't the whole point of science is to keep an open mind since there's never 100% proof for the certainty of anything?

Well, no, the point of science is to put observations under a very precise and exacting set of requirements before accepting them as fact. A good scientist, however, will not ignore a result just because it's unexpected or unexplainable at the time, but at the same time they won't throw out known laws at a whim, especially when those laws have a long history of predicable and reliable results. To totally overturn the basic principles of physics would take a very, VERY large discovery and a lot of proof.

QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ Mar 10 2012, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Mar 10 2012, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly think people take the laws of physics too seriously. Isn't the whole point of science is to keep an open mind since there's never 100% proof for the certainty of anything?

If keep your mind open open that far, your brains will fall out.

This is also an acceptable answer XD

Edited by The Doctor Who, 10 March 2012 - 03:31 PM.

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#13 Mr Smitt

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:50 PM

Since I prefer 'smaller than earth' cybertron to saturn-sized cybertron, this is an unacceptable answer to a question I never asked icon-fire.gif

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:02 PM

Since it has been brought up in the past that some people believe that the TF's, especially the very large ones, would be crushed under their own weight, I think this is an interesting theory as to why they wouldn't be.

As for all the "It's just a show" responces, if that's how you guys truely feel then maybe it's time to sell your collections and move on. After all, isn't this kind of speculation just the sort of thing that communities like this are here to discuss?



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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Mar 10 2012, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, no, the point of science is to put observations under a very precise and exacting set of requirements before accepting them as fact. A good scientist, however, will not ignore a result just because it's unexpected or unexplainable at the time, but at the same time they won't throw out known laws at a whim, especially when those laws have a long history of predicable and reliable results. To totally overturn the basic principles of physics would take a very, VERY large discovery and a lot of proof.

The thing is, scientists are just human so they're interpreting things from their limited human perspective.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE(Shockwave 75 @ Mar 10 2012, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As for all the "It's just a show" responces, if that's how you guys truely feel then maybe it's time to sell your collections and move on. After all, isn't this kind of speculation just the sort of thing that communities like this are here to discuss?

Yes, if you don't care about the made-up physics of a cartoon about giant alien robots, way more than the creators ever did, then you don't deserve toys.


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The thing is, scientists are just human so they're interpreting things from their limited human perspective.

May I suggest you drop the topic? You obviously do not know what you are talking about, and I'm not sure I'd like to derail the thread into a lecture about the scientific process.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:57 PM

Transformers aren't always that fast. They walk (and sometimes run) the same pace as human children in most series.

But yea, when they want to, they can be very fast. How? Advanced technology, of course.

Edited by Starfield, 10 March 2012 - 07:02 PM.


#18 Cybersnark

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:10 PM

Also, computer brains.

I've always just assumed that TF reflexes are much much faster than humans' (to the point where gun-fu bullet-dodging is sometimes possible).

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

Sufficiently advanced technology. 'Nuff said.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE(Mr Smitt @ Mar 10 2012, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since I prefer 'smaller than earth' cybertron to saturn-sized cybertron, this is an unacceptable answer to a question I never asked icon-fire.gif

Maybe it's also very, very dense.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.



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