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@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.


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#41 Silent_Magnus

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE(DeadCal @ Mar 8 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wheeljack. Wreckers. Sigh. If he's a purple ninja assassin in the next iteration of Transformers, will they try to wedge that in as well?

I'm assuming Wheeljack has had this bio, or something similar to it, for a few years. We just don't normally get to see these.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:57 PM

Chances are that it's pulled from the "Binder of Revelation" that gets brought up now and then. And that's terrible.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

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WHEELJACK has built everything from magnetic inducers to immobilizers to gyro-inhibitors, and even the occasional DINOBOT.


Since we know Shockwave is responsible for the original five Dinobots in the Aligned continuity, my personal headcanon is now that Wheeljack built the PCC Dinobots. Because everyone knows that dinosaurs are awesome, including a bored Wrecker with an engineering hobby and too much time on his hands*.

That, or he was involved in the creation of the Predacon that would eventually become BW Dinobot. Somehow.

*And a vague-at-best understanding of what a dinosaur actually is, but that's about par for the course when it comes to Dinobots.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:24 PM

Or the bio is just a mess.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Mar 8 2012, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(DeadCal @ Mar 8 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wheeljack. Wreckers. Sigh. If he's a purple ninja assassin in the next iteration of Transformers, will they try to wedge that in as well?

I'm assuming Wheeljack has had this bio, or something similar to it, for a few years. We just don't normally get to see these.

It's from Prime. Where Wheeljack is a tough as balls wanderer. Imagine Impactor wearing a Wheeljack wig.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:38 PM

Vote for Megatron and he won't steal sparks.

#47 Silent_Magnus

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE(DeadCal @ Mar 8 2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Mar 8 2012, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(DeadCal @ Mar 8 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wheeljack. Wreckers. Sigh. If he's a purple ninja assassin in the next iteration of Transformers, will they try to wedge that in as well?

I'm assuming Wheeljack has had this bio, or something similar to it, for a few years. We just don't normally get to see these.

It's from Prime. Where Wheeljack is a tough as balls wanderer. Imagine Impactor wearing a Wheeljack wig.

I can't remember if there's been any behind the scenes info about him, but Prime Wheeljack may be taken from this bio.

Unless I'm missing something it is a chicken and egg thing at the moment.(egg comes first, I know)


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Mar 8 2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LiamA @ Mar 8 2012, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Arcee's bio is a good example of how problematic this merging of continuities can be. They take two characters both named Arcee and make them one person. I consider G1 Arcee and Prime Arcee to be seperate characters.


Well they're trying to be inclusive of all versions of Arcee. Surprised a bit there's nothing about her being an Omnibot or sculpting Energon in there. That would have been pretty cool actually. Shoot.

Just consider this filling in the general bio of Aligned Continuity Arcee.


-ZacWilliam, or let it go as being a necessary facet of the trans-universal Hall entries...

That is disappointing, and it's such a simple line to throw in.

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Mar 8 2012, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty good spread here. No clue who I want to vote for.
My favorite part of this process is getting to see the bios for the guys that have obviously been "Aligned".

I find it kind of boring that post-G1 guys like BW Megatron and Sky-byte basically just get summaries of their shows.

Agreed, Sky-Byte didn't even get a mention of being from the G2 era, which is the picture they used for him.


I like how Megatron's bio makes it sound like he won BM, he made an army and countered Cybertron, no mention of his final defeat.

I'm really torn over who to vote for, they're all great picks. I hope next year they just auto-induct Primal and save me some trouble. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE(Servitor 2152 @ Mar 8 2012, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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WHEELJACK has built everything from magnetic inducers to immobilizers to gyro-inhibitors, and even the occasional DINOBOT.


Since we know Shockwave is responsible for the original five Dinobots in the Aligned continuity, my personal headcanon is now that Wheeljack built the PCC Dinobots. Because everyone knows that dinosaurs are awesome, including a bored Wrecker with an engineering hobby and too much time on his hands*.

That, or he was involved in the creation of the Predacon that would eventually become BW Dinobot. Somehow.

*And a vague-at-best understanding of what a dinosaur actually is, but that's about par for the course when it comes to Dinobots.


Maybe he built Paddles.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:13 PM

It's funny how Beast Wars Megatron (on the Mainframe cartoons) is like my favorite character ever from Transformers, meanwhile his interpretation in Japanese media is pretty much exactly what I hate (seemingly unintelligent Decepticon Leader type).

I will admit that I did like that the United version had an Intelligence of a 10 while Optimus Primal's was a 9. That seems befitting (don't know if those stats were stolen from the Anniversary versions or not?).

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:15 PM

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Mar 8 2012, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering this isn't merely about the G1 character, but also the Energon and Animated iterations

Is it? That's terribly inconsistent with their official stance on Megatron, then.

At any rate, I don't see any mention of that in Rodimus' bio, unless you want to really stretch some of the generic stuff about inspiration to other Autobots.

How come Wheeljack's bio doesn't say anything about him being Hot Shot's best friend until he was left for dead and joined the Decepticons, becoming Megatron's secret ace in the hole?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE(Dante @ Mar 8 2012, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How come Wheeljack's bio doesn't say anything about him being Hot Shot's best friend until he was left for dead and joined the Decepticons, becoming Megatron's secret ace in the hole?

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Unlike E Rodimus, Armada Wheeljack can't be argued to be an alt of the original character. Otherwise BW Megatron already in the Hall of Fame, becuase he's Megatron.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

Well, that's kind of my point. Energon Rodimus isn't the same character. He was never Hot Rod, and while his past self was compared to Hot Shot (the real Hot Rod/Rodimus parallel), that was only in hearsay. Actually if he were to parallel another Transformers character it would probably be Sentinel Prime.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:40 PM

QUOTE(Dante @ Mar 8 2012, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(M Sipher @ Mar 8 2012, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering this isn't merely about the G1 character, but also the Energon and Animated iterations

Is it? That's terribly inconsistent with their official stance on Megatron, then.


Why? There are two completely separate Megatrons in the BW universe.

Edited by Sockie, 08 March 2012 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:44 PM

Y'know, if Wheeljack gets in, I'm voting for Downshift next year, just to see what happens.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE(Dante @ Mar 8 2012, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, that's kind of my point. Energon Rodimus isn't the same character. He was never Hot Rod, and while his past self was compared to Hot Shot (the real Hot Rod/Rodimus parallel), that was only in hearsay. Actually if he were to parallel another Transformers character it would probably be Sentinel Prime.


Except he shares the same looks, and name, and role (leader). Doesn't matter if he wasn't Hot Rod, he is Rodimus. Same with Animated, he looks like Hot Rod, but he's Rodimus and a leader. To Hasbro they are all the same.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE(DeadCal @ Mar 8 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wheeljack. Wreckers. Sigh. If he's a purple ninja assassin in the next iteration of Transformers, will they try to wedge that in as well?

So first he steals Drift's schtick, now he's gonna steal Universe Camshaft's as well? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

I'm just so happy Sky-Byte made the final five!

Of course, he's gonna get curb-stomped by BW Megs, but it bodes well for an eventual induction for everyone's favorite haiku-spouting, cake-loving shark..



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