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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

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Happy birthday to me!

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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.


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#1 Sprocket

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:29 PM

If anyone cares, it turns out TakaraTomy uploaded their TV commercial for the Prime toy-line last weekend, showing (briefly) Soundwave, Arcee (with pink blade Mini-Con!) And Bulkhead. (with his wrecking-ball Mini-Con)


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:14 AM

damn was hoping it was going to be Soundwave's robot mode.


either way..yay stopmotion!

#3 OmegaX80

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 02:40 PM

Kinda cool. They get targetmasters!

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:53 PM

I wish the US advertisers would use stop-motion for their toy advertisements. I would actually watch TV if that much effort was put into commercials.

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#5 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

Bulkhead and Arcee are both the PRiD molds, right?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


#6 Buster Darkwings

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Mar 7 2012, 06:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish the US advertisers would use stop-motion for their toy advertisements. I would actually watch TV if that much effort was put into commercials.


I don't know if they legally can in the US. I seem to remember a lawsuit or something over the old Micro Machines commercials, which had stop-motion cars driving around until idiot parents complained that the actual toys didn't magically drive by themselves, go up ramps, or make turns.

Then again, even before this happened the US G1 commercials didn't have stop-motion, but the awesome animation made specifically for the commercials made up for it as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:32 PM

The Kre-O adverts are stop motion and they are awesome. I don't think they're screened on TV though.

#8 M Sipher

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Mar 6 2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then again, even before this happened the US G1 commercials didn't have stop-motion, but the awesome animation made specifically for the commercials made up for it as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, but... I've been coming to discover that much of the toy market of the 80's was, to be blunt, toy companies whipping it out and waving it all around going "LOOK HOW BIG THIS IS!!!", regardless of profitability. The decade of nigh-sociopathic excess.

Stuff like Fort Max and the USS Flagg are probably the biggest examples of "we're going to lose money but it LOOKS REALLY HUGE ON A SHELF HA HA EAT IT COMPETITOR", but animated commercials sure seem to fit that mentality.


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#9 Buster Darkwings

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:20 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Mar 7 2012, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Mar 6 2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then again, even before this happened the US G1 commercials didn't have stop-motion, but the awesome animation made specifically for the commercials made up for it as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, but... I've been coming to discover that much of the toy market of the 80's was, to be blunt, toy companies whipping it out and waving it all around going "LOOK HOW BIG THIS IS!!!", regardless of profitability. The decade of nigh-sociopathic excess.

Stuff like Fort Max and the USS Flagg are probably the biggest examples of "we're going to lose money but it LOOKS REALLY HUGE ON A SHELF HA HA EAT IT COMPETITOR", but animated commercials sure seem to fit that mentality.


M "Sooooooo I'm Not Banking On Those Resurfacing" Sipher


Meh, even if they did bring them back they'd probably just be 3DCG. So I don't really care.

#10 CORVUS

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

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Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Mar 6 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bulkhead and Arcee are both the PRiD molds, right?

Yes.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:01 AM

Maybe the Prid Bulkhead won't be so bad after all, it certainly doesn't look as misshapen here as it did at Toy Fair.
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And Liege, you're words really have had an effect on me. It made me relise I've shouldn't care about what others think of me, I should only care about what I think of myself.

Liege is a small dude with a lot of wisdom.

Well one of those descriptive words is accurate I suppose!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 7 2012, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Item42 @ Mar 6 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bulkhead and Arcee are both the PRiD molds, right?

Yes.


Just to be sure, so then this is the same as this only with a different accessory?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Mar 8 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 7 2012, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Item42 @ Mar 6 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bulkhead and Arcee are both the PRiD molds, right?

Yes.


Just to be sure, so then this is the same as this only with a different accessory?

As far as we know yes. There are bound to be other differences as well.

Randy

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

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Edited by MrBlud, 08 March 2012 - 09:50 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:51 PM

Not Convoy?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:41 PM

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Not Convoy?

Not since the second movie or so. They use the US names now. More recognizable, I suppose. A shame, because I always enjoyed seeing what "first name" the current Convoy would get.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:51 PM

He was Optimus Prime in the first movie, too. The only reason they didn't switch to Optimus Prime wholesale right then is that they didn't import Animated then, waiting until after RotF instead.

It was also at that point where they switched to Autobots and Decepticons, instead of Cybertrons and Destrons.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 8 2012, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Mar 8 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 7 2012, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Item42 @ Mar 6 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bulkhead and Arcee are both the PRiD molds, right?

Yes.


Just to be sure, so then this is the same as this only with a different accessory?

As far as we know yes. There are bound to be other differences as well.

Randy


Ok, I meant as far as the AM-10 being the PRID mold or First Edition.

Well, time to go cancel a BBTS preorder! icon-ironhide.gif

#20 Powered Convoy

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 07:09 AM

Not the First Edition mold.



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