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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.


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#1 Shockwave 75

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:47 PM

I just acquired this set as a "Grail Prize" from a new collecting website called ShelfLife. It's rather like Crave was before it had to shut down. I suggest checking it out. Anyway...

The unofficial reissue Surprise Headmaster Gift Set!


A very nice looking set, very professional and slick.


It looks like something that Takara/Tomy might actually put out.


Here we have the 4 Spikes and Zaraks. I'm not going to waste a lot of time reviewing them since basically if you've seen one Spike/Zarak you've seen them all. One of the plus's to this set is that you don't have to worry about the ravages of GPS with this Black Zarak.
The plastic quality is quite nice. It's not as glossy as the originals, but it still looks good.
Here they are in their robot modes:


And here they are in their head modes:


Now to the good stuff. The Headmasters that everyone wants to see. The guys referred to in the TV Magzine Supergod Masterforce story Master File #1 as the Headmaster Teens.

First up are Kirk, Rodney, and Loafer:


In their head modes only Rodney has the same style of lower leg as all the regular Headmasters that are big and blocky, meant to cover up the robot mode body while giving the illusion of a more complete head. The other two have rather stylized legs. Rodney is also unique in the way he transforms to head mode. He is the only one in this set that folds his legs "up"; meaning he kinda sits down to become a head. The only other Headmaster that shares this type of transformation is Krunk who is paired with Snapdragon.


There's not much fiction around these guys. They didn't even originally come with tech specs, nor do they now. But one easy way to remedy that is to attach them to a Headmaster body:

Kirk's readout is SPD: 7 STR: 9 INT: 6, Rodney: SPD: 10 STR: 7 INT: 10, Loafer: SPD: 10 STR: 9 INT: 8

Now the beast mode Headmasters Toraizer, Lione, and Shuffler. All four can move their legs and Shuffler actually has articulation in his trunk that has nothing to do with his transformation. It can move up and down slightly.


Toraizer and Lione have basically the same transformation to head mode except you fold Toraizer's head back while you bring Lione's head forward so it remains visible. Shuffler has a pretty involved transformation for a Headmaster, it's actually a 4 step transformation. All 3 have their robot mode faces on their bellies.


Like the other three, these three have little fiction associated with them. In the case of Shuffler, none at all! But like the other three all one need do is plug them into a Headmaster body.

Toraizer: SPD: 9 STR: 8 INT: 8, Lione: SPD: 7 STR: 7 INT: 8, Shuffler: SPD: 4 STR: 10 INT: 9

All of these guys, with the exception of Shuffler appeared in the Headmasters episodes Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters prt 2, and Operation: Destroy the Decepticons!, though their physical appearances varied between the two episodes.

This is a great set and I recommend anyone interested try and track one down. It's really the only way to own these figures without either being indepndantly wealthy or winning the lottery.

Oh, and I'll attach a nice pic I took of the battle scene on the back of the box in case anyone would like to use it as a background. I am!
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Edited by Shockwave 75, 07 March 2012 - 09:53 AM.



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#2 Shockwave 75

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:03 AM

Forgot to add a theory of mine.

I think that if they had been released in North America they definitely would have been split up between the factions.

Assuming their looks wouldn't have been changed; and really why would they? Back in the 80's there was little chance of anyone in North America being able to get the Japanese versions, unlike today.

I think the split would have been done thusly:

Autobots: Kirk, Loafer, and Toraizer; just because I thnk their faces look most "Autobot-like".

Decpticons: Rodney, Lione, and Shuffler; again, because they look the most "Decepticon-like".



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