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@  Smokey : (03 May 2016 - 12:01 PM)

OW HOLY SHIT SHE BREATHES FIRE OW OW OW

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 May 2016 - 11:27 AM)

You'll have to fight her for it. Be warned, she bites.

@  Smokey : (03 May 2016 - 11:25 AM)

Then I bid the soul of your turtle.

@  DeltaSeeker : (03 May 2016 - 11:25 AM)

I want one! I can't afford it, but I want one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 May 2016 - 11:22 AM)

I don't have a firstborn. Your bid is invalid.

@  Smokey : (03 May 2016 - 11:20 AM)

I bid the soul of your firstborn.

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 May 2016 - 11:13 AM)

I bid a coconut.

@  Ms Virion : (03 May 2016 - 11:11 AM)

I bid $1.

@  Robowang : (03 May 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Anyone want a $600 Botcon Megatron?

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 May 2016 - 01:58 AM)

Vote up and let's start showing, just where our Likes are going to.

@  BlackMax : (02 May 2016 - 07:12 PM)

These are the posts we're given.

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 May 2016 - 04:06 PM)

Well, this is the world we live in.

@  OrionPax44 : (02 May 2016 - 03:54 PM)

Living in the land of confusion

@  Paladin : (02 May 2016 - 11:13 AM)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/karl-urban-says-conversations-are-happening-about-dredd-tv-series

@  Verno : (02 May 2016 - 02:45 AM)

That's a good mantra, Daith.

@  Daith : (02 May 2016 - 02:26 AM)

Catering to the modern maximal with content that promises to seduce, entertain and continuously surprise.

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 09:04 PM)

Just trying to get some exposure. It's difficult to get your stuff seen.

@  Touch My Thighs : (01 May 2016 - 08:43 PM)

Verno fanfic power hour, huh?

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 08:29 PM)

The cover artwork for Issue #1 of TransWarp: Maxim -- http://tf-tvc.devian...Cover-606488281

@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 05:22 PM)

didn't know the reference before searching, but the Lizard Queen & fermentarium thing are from Simpsons. https://en.m.wikiped.../Selma's_Choice

@  Smokey : (01 May 2016 - 04:53 PM)

What the hug's a fermentarium?

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 04:34 PM)

'Dawn of the Predacus' not your cup of tea? Try TRANSFORMERS: UNITY for your BotCon 2016 comic.

@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 02:14 PM)

...... *MED's hand appears in the fermentarium, getting closer to TMM, along with the Jaws theme*

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 May 2016 - 01:19 PM)

I wasn't going to go in naked, but it rotted off all my clothes. And then I was already in anyway, so......

@  Paladin : (01 May 2016 - 12:32 PM)

for the last time, stop swimming naked in the fermentarium.

@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 09:17 AM)

I bring you fresh crickets and worms, my Queen. Your basking lamp is ready for you afterwards.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (01 May 2016 - 09:13 AM)

I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN!!!!!

@  Locoman : (01 May 2016 - 08:59 AM)

I still want a cheetor figure that actually looks like the version we got on the tv show.

@  zephyrX9 : (01 May 2016 - 01:15 AM)

my salt in not getting victorion has turned into salt waiting for TR rewind to go up for preorder. ho-hum

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 01:05 AM)

Given how TM Megs suffers from GPS, I'm sure many people would jump at a reissue.

@  Pennpenn : (01 May 2016 - 12:32 AM)

Out of all the hypothetical Beast Wars things, the one I'd like is a leader class Transmetal Megatron

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 11:18 PM)

They'd make a superb duo. If TT drew the line under BW MPs after those two, I'd be perfectly content.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:15 PM)

I personally hope we get an MP BW Megs, especially if he has a rubber ducky he can hold, yeeess.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Bring on October and MP Primal so the anniversary celebrations can begin.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:06 PM)

oh hey lok its tecs birthday

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:03 PM)

It certainly has, man. If it wasn't for BW I probably wouldn't be here.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 10:15 PM)

Yeah, I threw a link in the Beast Wars Birthday thread. I'm keen to hear as many thoughts on it as possible. The last month has proven just how dear to the hearts of fans BW is.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 10:04 PM)

I looked at it a few days ago, actually, I saw you post it somewhere here on the forums.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 09:43 PM)

No, they're certainly after their own ends. Cheers for taking a look at it, Smokey. I appreciate it.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 09:36 PM)

Well, at least you twisted things around so the Tripredacus council aren't minions of Unicron.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 09:30 PM)

With Primus and Unicron, it was my aim for it to double as a celebration of the 30th anniversary of TF:TM.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 09:27 PM)

It's... Better than Dawn of the Predacus, at least. I could do without the whole Primus v. Unicron thing, that's been done to death.

@  Telly : (30 April 2016 - 09:25 PM)

i went off when i saw unicron

@  Patchouli Kn... : (30 April 2016 - 09:04 PM)

You shall not pass.

@  Touch My Thighs : (30 April 2016 - 09:01 PM)

Pass.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 08:09 PM)

Read my Beast Wars 20th Anniversary comic book pitch to IDW -- TRANSFORMERS: DEICIDE

@  Telly : (30 April 2016 - 08:00 PM)

like paladin says, bbts and the like probly have them (or will get them soon) but are waiting for the hasbro release date before putting up pages

@  Paladin : (30 April 2016 - 05:10 PM)

something about street dates I think...

@  Pennpenn : (30 April 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Any particular reason it's not available in some of the ones I see more often like BBTS and TFSource and so on?

@  unluckiness : (30 April 2016 - 09:55 AM)

Might want to wash your hands after handling the toys if you order from the latter.


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Oxygen found on one of Saturn's Moons


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#1 Rust

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

The Story

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Two years ago, when NASA's Cassini Solstice spacecraft flew past the moon Dione, it noticed something familiar. Oxygen is present in Saturn's third-largest moon's exosphere (it's extended, tenuous atmosphere), and according to research published this week, Cassini's hi-tech "nose" had sniffed it.

Obviously, the first thing that springs to mind when discussing oxygen is that it's a pretty important component for life on Earth. But Dione, a barren and icy world, possesses few attributes that would make it suitable for life as we know it.

Although it is known to be composed of significant quantities of water ice, there is no indication -- unlike sister Saturn moon Enceladus -- that there is any sub-surface aquifer of liquid water. Liquid water is key to the evolution of life.

So why is the discovery of oxygen in Dione's exosphere important? If Dione's got it, then perhaps its sibling moons also have it, giving us a tantalizing clue as to the possibility of life on the natural satellites around Saturn and Jupiter.

"Some of the other moons have liquid oceans and so it is worth looking more closely at them for signs of life," Andrew Coates, of University College London and lead scientist of the study, told BBC News.

It is thought the oxygen is being produced via interactions between Saturn's powerful radiation belts and Dione's water ice. The radiation breaks the water molecules down, liberating oxygen into the moon's exosphere.

This most recent discovery will no doubt give a boost to scientists lobbying for sending missions to the gas giant's satellites to search for alien life as, like the presence of liquid water, the presence oxygen could support microscopic lifeforms on other, more habitable moons.

The Cassini research has been published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


This is awesome, and definitely warrants a closer look!

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

Is free oxygen actually important? Earth didn't have any when life started here. Intriguing, though.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:10 PM

yeah, the existence of elements outside of earth... not big news,

another one of those "get the ones that partly remember high school science" excited news days.

finding air and water are not necessary for finding life.. they're requirements for the majority of the life we know about to GO there

(not to mention a few other things like gravity and air pressure) but, yeah... not surprising.

not to pooh pooh on your parade though Rust, but it's like making a news story about going to the house next door and being amazed that they have sheets on their bed too.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 12:21 AM

It'd be more interesting if there was no easy explanation for it. Otherwise it's pretty meh. As stated before, life didn't start with a need for oxygen.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 12:26 AM

I guess the rest of us don't find this very exciting icon-fire.gif


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:17 AM

Guys, this is horrible news!



Those horrible made-for-women-TV-movies are spreading through the universe. The Omicronians are gonna see it in a thousand years and be pissed.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:49 AM

Should be interesting when exploring the outer solar system if we put a station or something out there. Right now not so much since we can only fling probes out there.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

Well Predaking, It means Quaid already did his job. icon-fire.gif



But yea, Oxygen isn't saying much. Now, a Nitrogen Oxygen mix AND liquid water, then we're talking. Still, We need to do a lot more research and exploration of the Jovian and Saturnian systems. There's a lot of unknown unknown's about them.
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#10 wonko the sane?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

Too far away from a radiant light source to make it worth the effort. It also spends too much time hiding from the sun on the the other side of the saturn for it to take properly.

Does mean we could make a self sustaining colony out there. Oxygen is a hell of a lot like lego, once you got the basic blocks you can make a ton of stuff.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Copper Bezel @ Mar 3 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is free oxygen actually important? Earth didn't have any when life started here. Intriguing, though.

The fact that Earth wouldn't have free oxygen if it didn't have life first is actually exactly why finding oxygen in the right circucmstances (the lower atmosphere of a world whose surface doesn't get a lot of radiation, for example) could be evidence of life.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

No, I get that. I mean, if it's actually being proposed that it's biogenic, then this is more than big. However, what's proposed above is that the oxygen is being produced from a non-biological process. If that proves wrong, then this could prove to be a very big deal. The presentation in the article that oxygen is needed for life is still wrong, and a supply of non-biogenic oxygen is probably not going make life substantially more likely on a world without liquid water, so it doesn't make Dione any more exciting by itself if we can explain its presence.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Mar 9 2012, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

We're ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeenturies away from being able to do that. We still haven't even built a base on the Moon! icon-blitz.gif

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

Seeing how fast we went from steam power to tablet computers, I'm not convinced centuries is quite right.

#17 wonko the sane?

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Mar 9 2012, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

We're ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeenturies away from being able to do that. We still haven't even built a base on the Moon! icon-blitz.gif

No, we haven't built a base on the moon because its an ecomonic sink with no real purpose at the moment. Once there's money to be made, there'll be entire cities up there and damn quick too. But our limitied knowledge of the geography of the moon currently leads us to believe that the only thing of worth up there is helium 3... and there's no market for it in volume.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:28 PM

A user named Rust is excited to hear that oxygen has been found on either planets.

Did they find iron, too? Maybe he's hoping to connect with some long-lost family members?
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE(Canthros @ Mar 10 2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A user named Rust is excited to hear that oxygen has been found on either planets.

Did they find iron, too? Maybe he's hoping to connect with some long-lost family members?


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