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@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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Oxygen found on one of Saturn's Moons


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#1 Rust

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

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Two years ago, when NASA's Cassini Solstice spacecraft flew past the moon Dione, it noticed something familiar. Oxygen is present in Saturn's third-largest moon's exosphere (it's extended, tenuous atmosphere), and according to research published this week, Cassini's hi-tech "nose" had sniffed it.

Obviously, the first thing that springs to mind when discussing oxygen is that it's a pretty important component for life on Earth. But Dione, a barren and icy world, possesses few attributes that would make it suitable for life as we know it.

Although it is known to be composed of significant quantities of water ice, there is no indication -- unlike sister Saturn moon Enceladus -- that there is any sub-surface aquifer of liquid water. Liquid water is key to the evolution of life.

So why is the discovery of oxygen in Dione's exosphere important? If Dione's got it, then perhaps its sibling moons also have it, giving us a tantalizing clue as to the possibility of life on the natural satellites around Saturn and Jupiter.

"Some of the other moons have liquid oceans and so it is worth looking more closely at them for signs of life," Andrew Coates, of University College London and lead scientist of the study, told BBC News.

It is thought the oxygen is being produced via interactions between Saturn's powerful radiation belts and Dione's water ice. The radiation breaks the water molecules down, liberating oxygen into the moon's exosphere.

This most recent discovery will no doubt give a boost to scientists lobbying for sending missions to the gas giant's satellites to search for alien life as, like the presence of liquid water, the presence oxygen could support microscopic lifeforms on other, more habitable moons.

The Cassini research has been published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


This is awesome, and definitely warrants a closer look!

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

Is free oxygen actually important? Earth didn't have any when life started here. Intriguing, though.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:10 PM

yeah, the existence of elements outside of earth... not big news,

another one of those "get the ones that partly remember high school science" excited news days.

finding air and water are not necessary for finding life.. they're requirements for the majority of the life we know about to GO there

(not to mention a few other things like gravity and air pressure) but, yeah... not surprising.

not to pooh pooh on your parade though Rust, but it's like making a news story about going to the house next door and being amazed that they have sheets on their bed too.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 12:21 AM

It'd be more interesting if there was no easy explanation for it. Otherwise it's pretty meh. As stated before, life didn't start with a need for oxygen.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 12:26 AM

I guess the rest of us don't find this very exciting icon-fire.gif


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:17 AM

Guys, this is horrible news!



Those horrible made-for-women-TV-movies are spreading through the universe. The Omicronians are gonna see it in a thousand years and be pissed.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:49 AM

Should be interesting when exploring the outer solar system if we put a station or something out there. Right now not so much since we can only fling probes out there.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

Well Predaking, It means Quaid already did his job. icon-fire.gif



But yea, Oxygen isn't saying much. Now, a Nitrogen Oxygen mix AND liquid water, then we're talking. Still, We need to do a lot more research and exploration of the Jovian and Saturnian systems. There's a lot of unknown unknown's about them.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

Too far away from a radiant light source to make it worth the effort. It also spends too much time hiding from the sun on the the other side of the saturn for it to take properly.

Does mean we could make a self sustaining colony out there. Oxygen is a hell of a lot like lego, once you got the basic blocks you can make a ton of stuff.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Copper Bezel @ Mar 3 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is free oxygen actually important? Earth didn't have any when life started here. Intriguing, though.

The fact that Earth wouldn't have free oxygen if it didn't have life first is actually exactly why finding oxygen in the right circucmstances (the lower atmosphere of a world whose surface doesn't get a lot of radiation, for example) could be evidence of life.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

No, I get that. I mean, if it's actually being proposed that it's biogenic, then this is more than big. However, what's proposed above is that the oxygen is being produced from a non-biological process. If that proves wrong, then this could prove to be a very big deal. The presentation in the article that oxygen is needed for life is still wrong, and a supply of non-biogenic oxygen is probably not going make life substantially more likely on a world without liquid water, so it doesn't make Dione any more exciting by itself if we can explain its presence.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Mar 9 2012, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

We're ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeenturies away from being able to do that. We still haven't even built a base on the Moon! icon-blitz.gif

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

Seeing how fast we went from steam power to tablet computers, I'm not convinced centuries is quite right.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Mar 9 2012, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(D.M @ Mar 8 2012, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Mar 6 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what does this mean for Terra-forming it?

It's smaller than our own moon soooo that would be pretty much impossible.

You think too small. It's not that large a celestial body: we could easily build a structure around the body that would allow us to flood the new space with earth atmosphere. Throw in some artificial sunlight and heaters and we got us a world in a bottle.

We're ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeenturies away from being able to do that. We still haven't even built a base on the Moon! icon-blitz.gif

No, we haven't built a base on the moon because its an ecomonic sink with no real purpose at the moment. Once there's money to be made, there'll be entire cities up there and damn quick too. But our limitied knowledge of the geography of the moon currently leads us to believe that the only thing of worth up there is helium 3... and there's no market for it in volume.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:28 PM

A user named Rust is excited to hear that oxygen has been found on either planets.

Did they find iron, too? Maybe he's hoping to connect with some long-lost family members?
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE(Canthros @ Mar 10 2012, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A user named Rust is excited to hear that oxygen has been found on either planets.

Did they find iron, too? Maybe he's hoping to connect with some long-lost family members?


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