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@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:28 AM

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:03 AM

I am extremely ready for Flobsters.

Have there been any trailers for this episode? I haven't seen any online...

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:53 AM

If this is a success I hope we get a sequel "War of the Flobsters."

Maybe Cody could keep a Flobster as a pet and it could be like the show's wacky animal sidekick. They could do plush Flobster dolls. In the show he could have his own mini adventures. Build his own little Flobsterbot to take into battle. Soon he would get first billing, like "Slimer and the real Ghostbusters" but y'know with more Flobster.

He could get his own fandom of obssessed flying lobster fanboys: Flobbies.


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:28 AM


C'mon! Someone must have watched it!!! Comment already. I must know more of these Flobsters!


-ZacWilliam, like... um... ...were any of them blue...?
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 06:01 PM

Man, Heatwave is such a grumpypants.

It's no wonder they made Doc Greene live on Griffin Rock. His inventions seem to endanger the general population on a daily basis. Last week, out-of-control solar car, this week, weaponized flobsters.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:10 PM

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This show is so fun.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE(abates @ Mar 3 2012, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's no wonder they made Doc Greene live on Griffin Rock. His inventions seem to endanger the general population on a daily basis.

His inventions seem to endanger him on a daily basis. He's like the human equivalent of Wheeljack. icon-fire.gif

Also:

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:19 PM

On the Hub website now!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:38 AM

Stuff I noticed from watching it on the Hub site:
I presume the statue of the fellow in pilgrim dress which Doc Greene clings to during his ride is the fellow Griffin Rock is named after, or at least the town founder. (I am going to call him Peter Griffin until they give him a name.)
Doc Greene's float has a hologram of a gentleman with mutton-chops. I'm not sure who that is. Is he a real historical figure? I'm assuming a physicist.
Shortly after the flobsters overrun the fair, Cody randomly chases a robot dog across the screen. Sparkplug (RB)? (I believe the storybook version of Sparkplug is organic.)
Mayor Luskey is not fooling anyone with that hairpiece.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(abates @ Mar 15 2012, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stuff I noticed from watching it on the Hub site:
I presume the statue of the fellow in pilgrim dress which Doc Greene clings to during his ride is the fellow Griffin Rock is named after, or at least the town founder. (I am going to call him Peter Griffin until they give him a name.)
Doc Greene's float has a hologram of a gentleman with mutton-chops. I'm not sure who that is. Is he a real historical figure? I'm assuming a physicist.
Shortly after the flobsters overrun the fair, Cody randomly chases a robot dog across the screen. Sparkplug (RB)? (I believe the storybook version of Sparkplug is organic.)
Mayor Luskey is not fooling anyone with that hairpiece.


Given what we're seeing, I'm starting to piece together a history for the city.

My guess is that Griffin Rock was settled by some of the earliest European settlers to North America; the area offered a large quantity of timber and fresh seafood (hence the "lobster" part of the festival), and given the geological activity beneath the island the soil was probably good for farming. In time, a series of bridges was officially built along the mountains on one side of the island, thereby linking it to the mainland.

Some time during the early 1900s, Griffin Rock appears to have been made the headquarters for either a college with a strong research arm or a rather well-funded laboratory. This, coupled with the volcanic nature of the island, was likely why Mount Magma was relocated there in 1939.

In time, the R&D industry began outstripping the commercial fishing and commercial logging industries as Griffin Rock's main source of income; we know that some sort of logging industry existed because of the story behind Blades' hoist mechanism. Past a certain point, the island likely became so strongly associated with R&D that the government started moving in behind-the-scenes; the island had a sufficiently educated population to make it worthwhile as a giant research center in order to produce new weapons and equipment for the Cold War (hence the bunker - it was a military command center from which to oversee everything), but its status as an island meant that in a worst-case scenario the damage could largely be contained. By the time the series takes place, the government has such a choke-hold on the real workings of the island that they were able to convince the Burns family to take the Rescue Bots on as partners; Chief Burns is probably their main point of contact, and may well be ex-military himself.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:19 PM

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I wonder if they just didn't bother to put anything saying Canadians can't watch, or if the Hub logo is supposed to keep spinning for that long...

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