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#1 Guardian Prime

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:06 PM

The long awaited Fluttershy episode will soon be upon us.

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Putting Your Hoof Down: When Fluttershy becomes tired of being pushed around for too long, she decides to seek some assertiveness training from self-help guru Iron Will. With the help of her new teacher, she quickly transforms her unsure ways.

Don't forget that this episode will be showing at a new time slot. 1:00p.m. Eastern, 10:00a.m. Pacific.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:10 PM

Pillow on Twilight head is so epic tho, I might not be able to watch this week's or the following week's episode, I'm a sad pony ='(
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE(Scavgraphics @ Mar 2 2012, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I need to change the chat graphic since it's not early morning anymore

It's still kind of early for the west coast!
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

I wonder if Iron Will would be interested in buying any rubber walrus protectors?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

Did this not air after all? I can't find it anywhere.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:52 PM

It aired. Iron Will, the Motivataur.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Mar 3 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did this not air after all? I can't find it anywhere.

It's only been 21 minutes since it wrapped up. We're quick, but we're not THAT quick.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

  • Iron Will is a great character. Balanced, not malevolent, but badass. Also reasonable. Awesome. And he has an adorable shopping basket. I really like him a lot
  • Rarity is a horribly insincere flirt :<
  • Angel is hilarious spoiled
  • And Pinkie Pie may lose worst poni status if she keeps building character like that. Business savvy Pinkie ftw


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE(Kein @ Mar 3 2012, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, if minotaurs exist in Equestria and sane and sapient - what kind of other mythological creatures we will see?

Hopefully it will last long enough to show all of them.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

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Welcome! You have entered [The Well] at 8:21 am
[The Well]: Nayuki has entered at 10:24 am
[The Well]: Guardian Prime has entered at 10:48 am
[Nayuki] 10:53 am: where is everyone? show is going to start soon.
[Guardian Prime] 10:54 am: I was wondering the same. I hope everyone didn't forget about the time.
[The Well]: sobana has entered at 10:55 am
[sobana] 10:55 am: Nayuki! =D
[Nayuki] 10:55 am: morning Sobana
[sobana] 10:55 am: And others!
[sobana] 10:56 am: It is after noon, don't think it still counts as morning =p
[Nayuki] 10:56 am: it's morning still for me
[sobana] 10:56 am: Need to go get a muffin and get ready for the show.
[Guardian Prime] 10:56 am: It's still morning for me. Almost 10:00a.m.
[sobana] 10:57 am: You must live in a magical place then!
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[scavgraphics] 10:57 am: and I wish to register that this new schedule blows
[The Well]: Dvandom has entered at 10:57 am
[sobana] 10:57 am: Look like I'm the only one witht he right time then =p
[Dvandom] 10:57 am: Lo
[sobana] 10:58 am: anyway, going to sit in front of the TV now, brb'
[scavgraphics] 10:58 am: And the wizards at Cartoon Network have delayed their DC Nation block to be at the some time as Pony in this time zone too
[Dvandom] 10:58 am: No Faust content in the DC Nation shorts this week.
[scavgraphics] 10:59 am: I mean wtf..a whole morning, and everything is at the same hour
[The Well]: pao has entered at 10:59 am
[Dvandom] 10:59 am: Apparently the moral of this week's Strawberry Shortcake is, "Do right, do wrong, who the hell cares? Things will screw up anyway."
[scavgraphics] 11:00 am: seems like the past 3 weeks has been them taking a vacation
[Nayuki] 11:01 am: yay ponies
[Dvandom] 11:01 am: SMWIRL CHOW
[Dvandom] 11:02 am: Angel wants to feast on human flesh
[Dvandom] 11:02 am: Now that I've heard the extended MLP theme from the DVD, I have to say that brevity is the soul of wit in this case. The extended one is pretty weak.
[Nayuki] 11:03 am: I agree, I prefer the short version
[The Well]: Caboose has entered at 11:03 am
[scavgraphics] 11:03 am: Rainbow Dashes to Dave's side
[sobana] 11:03 am: Did Fluttershy just refer to all those animals as 'everypony'?
[Dvandom] 11:03 am: Forced in several places, and the musical similarities to Winter Wrap-Up just make it feel like a pale copy.
[Caboose] 11:03 am: Possibly.
[pao] 11:03 am: so there's "everypony" for non-ponies again, so that pretty much seals it for me, it just means "everybody", but a more literal rendering of the (fictional, nonexistent) original Equestrian word
[Caboose] 11:03 am: What's going on everypony?
[Caboose] 11:04 am: Hmmm
[Caboose] 11:04 am: I need teh snacks.
[pao] 11:04 am: semantic drift at work
[The Well]: Rezo has entered at 11:04 am
[Nayuki] 11:04 am: oh, and I may have put in some small easter eggs in todays episode....
[scavgraphics] 11:04 am: I don't like that the xtended version doesn't go into the breakdown
[Rezo] 11:05 am: Fact: Angel knows when to SLAP a b***h
[Guardian Prime] 11:06 am: Too many dang commercials.
[Dvandom] 11:06 am: Fer shure
[The Well]: Arson has entered at 11:08 am
[Dvandom] 11:09 am: WABBIT SESON
[pao] 11:09 am: the Bugs Bunny Inversion
[pao] 11:09 am: classic
[pao] 11:09 am: this world needs a 1/2 bit coin
[The Well]: Arson has left at 11:09 am
[The Well]: Arson has entered at 11:09 am
[Dvandom] 11:09 am: Epic fail on seduction.
[Dvandom] 11:10 am: Pinkie has the right idea.
[Dvandom] 11:11 am: Grover wouldn't have put up with that.
[scavgraphics] 11:11 am: another invocation of Celestia
[pao] 11:12 am: Fluttershy's house looks like it's somewhere different? where'd that cliff come from?
[sobana] 11:12 am: Ponies teach me scamming people is the right course of action.
[Arson] 11:12 am: But of course it is, dear.
[Rezo] 11:13 am: Rarity is such an insincere flirt <_<
[scavgraphics] 11:14 am: decides to complain to Hasbro for it's nerdist character and make them change the episode
[Arson] 11:14 am: I love how childrens' shows have commercials for things no child would ever need.
[scavgraphics] 11:14 am: like a zebra movie?
[pao] 11:14 am: you don't know any children who need a boat with a screen door in it?
[Dvandom] 11:15 am: Heh, eye of the tiger
[pao] 11:15 am: bipedal is assertive!
[Dvandom] 11:15 am: pao: Heh, I'd hoped that was a local insertion ad.
[pao] 11:15 am: also thumbs
[Arson] 11:15 am: El Odio!!!
[Dvandom] 11:15 am: LEMMETALLYASUMTHIN!
[scavgraphics] 11:16 am: so Lyra takes advantage of Bon Bon
[Dvandom] 11:16 am: Goaties
[Arson] 11:17 am: Oh lord. I see her becoming Gilda.
[Arson] 11:17 am: Okay, maybe not.
[pao] 11:17 am: who needs Discord? it's the return of Flutterbully
[Dvandom] 11:18 am: Iron Will and Trixie are probably in the same union.
[pao] 11:18 am: YOUR FACE
[scavgraphics] 11:18 am: And we now have radio tech for Ponies
[scavgraphics] 11:19 am: and a 4th voice for BonBon
[Dvandom] 11:19 am: Bucked up.
[pao] 11:19 am: Bon Bon in the waste disposal business
[pao] 11:19 am: we had radio headsets in Cloudsdale for the Young Fliers Competition
[Dvandom] 11:19 am: Flutterrage in 3...2...1.....
[pao] 11:20 am: heh, "stoked"
[Dvandom] 11:20 am: HARD! CORE!
[Arson] 11:20 am: The terror of New Fluttershy!!
[pao] 11:21 am: I'd like to hear Fluttershy do one of Coop's "You think you can come in here..." speeches now
[Dvandom] 11:22 am: Heh
[Dvandom] 11:22 am: FlutterMech
[Arson] 11:22 am: This I want to see.
[pao] 11:22 am: there is the Ballad of Mecha Pinkie Pie comic series
[sobana] 11:22 am: When they try to block, show them that you rock!
[Dvandom] 11:22 am: Yep
[Dvandom] 11:23 am: PonyKiva?
[pao] 11:23 am: that would be fun
[Dvandom] 11:23 am: The mail delivery is derped.
[Dvandom] 11:23 am: Return of the Ponymail from the other week
[Arson] 11:23 am: MAGNUM PONY!?!
[pao] 11:24 am: did Iron Will take rhyming couplet classes from Zecora?
[Dvandom] 11:24 am: Iron Will is 1 part Mr. T, three parts Macho Man Savage.
[pao] 11:24 am: nice Pinkie Pie poses there
[Dvandom] 11:25 am: Heh, Hulk TV riff.
[Dvandom] 11:26 am: Lots of musical references today.
[The Well]: pao has left at 11:26 am
[Arson] 11:26 am: This is part of why we love this show.
[Dvandom] 11:27 am: Other than the headset, Iron Will can be made in the CIty of Heroes costume creator. icon-hotrod.gif
[The Well]: pao has entered at 11:28 am
[Dvandom] 11:28 am: Cotton candy tail.
[pao] 11:28 am: emergency backup laptop GO!
[Dvandom] 11:30 am: STARE
[Arson] 11:30 am: Was that ... THE STARE?
[pao] 11:31 am: is it wrong that I was waiting for "...that monster!" <beat> "Tortoise."
[scavgraphics] 11:31 am: pony2 or YJ..hmm pony2 i think
[sobana] 11:31 am: Did anyone else notice that awesome scene with Fluttershy when they scrolled her across screne?
[Dvandom] 11:31 am: YJ was a Sins of Youth retelling
[Rezo] 11:31 am: I loved iron will's little shopping basket~
[sobana] 11:32 am: Also, was there a Derpy sighting this episode?
[pao] 11:32 am: it was a nice touch
[Rezo] 11:32 am: And I very much enjoy pinkie being more than the token cartoon joke in this episode, too~
[Dvandom] 11:32 am: Can the goats talk in Equestrian, and just prefer not to?
[Rezo] 11:32 am: She might actrually lose worst poni spot at this rate <_<
[sobana] 11:33 am: Was there a Derpy in this episode?
[Arson] 11:33 am: Time to work; gotta run! Later, all!
[sobana] 11:33 am: See ya! =D
[Caboose] 11:33 am: I like how Iron Will turned out to at least be somewhat reasonable when Fluttershy stood up for herself, I was waiting for him to go full-out unbending bunghole.
[pao] 11:34 am: good question, Dvandom; that's what I'd have to guess
[The Well]: Arson has left at 11:34 am
[scavgraphics] 11:34 am: Iron Will's a business man..minotaur
[pao] 11:34 am: they probably aren't native speakers
[sobana] 11:34 am: A lot of nice anaimated scenes in this episode
[scavgraphics] 11:34 am: i didn't see a derpy icon-screamer.gif
[Dvandom] 11:34 am: He's a motivataur.
[sobana] 11:34 am: But all the ponies seemed ruder then normal
[pao] 11:34 am: awwwww
[scavgraphics] 11:35 am: yeah, lots of rude ponies
[sobana] 11:35 am: Do you think they removed her from all the episodes now?
[scavgraphics] 11:35 am: sobana: no
[sobana] 11:35 am: But, but, but... she wasn't there in this one! O_O
[Rezo] 11:35 am: Iron Will was a great character
[Nayuki] 11:35 am: she wasn't?
[Rezo] 11:36 am: Very nicely balanced. Not a caricature
[Dvandom] 11:36 am: The sky isn't falling, sobana.
[sobana] 11:36 am: Maybe they took a week off to edit her all out?
[Rezo] 11:36 am: Is it okay if I tell you to shut up once someone's gone through the frames and spotted her, sobana?
[Caboose] 11:37 am: I don't like that they ended with calling him a monster though, that's hardly fair.
[Nayuki] 11:37 am: I'll have to rewatch the episode. I did put her in a couple scenes, I can't see a reason for her being taken out though, maybe people just didn't spot her.
[Rezo] 11:37 am: well, he IS a minotaur.
[sobana] 11:37 am: Well, if she is in ther, that is alright then =D
[Rezo] 11:37 am: Reasonable minotaur is reasonable
[Dvandom] 11:38 am: Unlike Trixie, Iron Will knows the secret of success is to not alienate the customers.
[sobana] 11:38 am: Iron Will remembers me of something, but what
[Rezo] 11:39 am: also, derp's been spotted, iron will crowd scene~
[Rezo] 11:39 am: so, I take this opportunity to kindly tell sobana to shut up~
[sobana] 11:39 am: Yay, life is worth living again! =D
[sobana] 11:42 am: A lot of cute fluttershy moments in this one
[Dvandom] 11:42 am: (Shut up Eccles!)
[sobana] 11:42 am: A lot of
[The Well]: pao has left at 11:42 am
[The Well]: pao has entered at 11:42 am
[sobana] 11:42 am: A lot of Fluttershy's episodes seem to revolve around her shyness
[pao] 11:43 am: defining character trait is defining
[sobana] 11:43 am: Also, fluttershy Insults are cruel and funny
[Dvandom] 11:43 am: She has a lot of anger and bitterness banked up.
[sobana] 11:43 am: Like a pony version of water boy
[Caboose] 11:44 am: Yeah, Fluttershy's insults were very pointed and very mean. Oof.
[sobana] 11:44 am: "Petty and worthless!"
[sobana] 11:45 am: Also, why would fluttershy call a taxi when she can fly?
[Dvandom] 11:46 am: Why would she be worried about a bridge being blocked?
[Dvandom] 11:46 am: She wants things.
[Rezo] 11:46 am: Flying implies putting yourself higher than others. Can't do!
[Dvandom] 11:46 am: SHE WILL HAVE THOSE THINGS.
[sobana] 11:46 am: Only anger gives her the power of flight
[Rezo] 11:46 am: Also, it's probably a strain for her <_<
[Dvandom] 11:47 am: I pity the fool that keeps Fluttershy from what she wants.
[Dvandom] 11:47 am: Huh...just realized they missed a pony pun. Iron Will actually said he pitied the fool, not the foal.
[sobana] 11:47 am: Did anypony else noticed that while at market she picked things up with her wing rather then her hoof?
[sobana] 11:48 am: What are the creators secretly trying to tell us? >.>
[scavgraphics] 11:48 am: well, she moved stuff with em
[sobana] 11:49 am: I believe you are right >.>
[Caboose] 11:50 am: She held open her bag with one.
[sobana] 11:50 am: Oh right!
[scavgraphics] 11:50 am: of course, the Apple's can maipulate things with their tails as if they were limbs...despite the tails being able to be easily severed like hair...
[Rezo] 11:51 am: prehensile tails are best tails
[Dvandom] 11:51 am: They all have some level of telekinesis, the horns let unicorns project it beyond the limits of their body.
[sobana] 11:51 am: We are getting into some deep stuff now
[Dvandom] 11:52 am: Tactile Telekinesis. icon-arcee.gif
[sobana] 11:53 am: O_O!
[Rezo] 11:53 am: Also, fluttershy needs a wing assertiveness course
[Rezo] 11:53 am: so she may actually start using them <_<
[Dvandom] 11:55 am: Big Mac's brain is loose in his skull.
[The Well]: Rezo has left at 11:55 am
[sobana] 11:59 am: Anyway, I have to go, talk to you bronies laters *Brohoof*
[Dvandom] 11:59 am: "Our hearts and hooves were in the right place." "But your brains weren't even on the right PLANET."
[Nayuki] 11:59 am: ciao
[sobana] 12:00 pm: Nayuki said bye to me!~ <3
[Nayuki] 12:00 pm: I did
[sobana] 12:00 pm: =D
[sobana] 12:00 pm: Someone famous talked to me!
[Nayuki] 12:01 pm: famous? not infamous?
[sobana] 12:01 pm: Yes!
[sobana] 12:01 pm: Anyway, I must be off now! <3
[Nayuki] 12:02 pm: bye Sobana
[The Well]: sobana has left at 12:02 pm
[Caboose] 12:03 pm: *YAWN*
[Caboose] 12:03 pm: How's everypony doing?
[Nayuki] 12:03 pm: well rested. the new schedule has been kind to me
[Caboose] 12:03 pm: Good to hear!
[scavgraphics] 12:04 pm: ok, noon time
[Nayuki] 12:04 pm: why is youtube so slow... I need to go and double check my scenes
[Dvandom] 12:05 pm: I got up early anyway, but I was allergied last night and went to bed earlier than I usually do even on a school night.
[Caboose] 12:05 pm: I got up around the same time I normally got up, thankfully.
[scavgraphics] 12:05 pm: I'm stil half deaf, so hit early, but been up waiting for shows...and dozed to phneas and ferb
[Nayuki] 12:06 pm: that platypus
[scavgraphics] 12:07 pm: ok posting transcript...good chat all


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

It was a really good episode. I had seen Derpy in Iron Will's crowd scene with her eyes fully derped. I thought I had also seen her in the market scene earlier in the ep but I couldn't tell for sure if it was really her or not. She had saddle bags on so I couldn't tell if she had her wings. She was at the produce stand next to the cherry one Fluttershy went to.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:39 PM

Well, I complained for months now on the lack of Fluttershy episode. So what did I think now that we finally get one.

I loved it. It's not the best but it's better than certain other episodes (MDW, Cutie Pox).

+ Fluttershy finally gets to fly solo & she flies high in this one.
+ Some nice character interaction between Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, & Rarity. I like that, previous episodes this season that only center on one pony seems to push aside the rest of the cast. In
+ The use of the hedge maze was nice,
+ Iron Will, this bizarre minotaur Mr. T as a self-help guru was fun to see. Especially that line
+ Pinkie Pie's constantly pulling a Bugs Bunny.
+ I like how Fluttershy in the end, managed to hold her ground against Iron Will without some big confrontation. It makes the moral more believable.
+ Derpy cameos of the episode.
HIGHLIGHT to view:
+ The return of the Stare at the end, about time she used it on Angel.

- It felt too mean spirited at times, I'm not talking about New!Fluttershy but from the background ponies in the first half of the episode. We get that Fluttershy is a pushover but geez. Not as bad as say, modern looking construction sites & dam in the relatively rural Ponyville.
- For that matter, Angel is much ruder than usual. He flippin' slapped Fluttershy.

This is probably Merriweather Williams' best episode so far, mind you the idea was by Charlotte Fullerton who wrote some memorable episodes so make that what you will.

Grade: A-

Edited by Don_East, 03 March 2012 - 02:46 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:56 PM

I thought this episode was absolutely incredible icon-hotrod.gif I am still grinning ear to ear from the joy it has brought!

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(MyLittleEmpath @ Mar 3 2012, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Mar 3 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did this not air after all? I can't find it anywhere.

It's only been 21 minutes since it wrapped up. We're quick, but we're not THAT quick.

Oh is it not on early? I don't have the Hub.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:04 PM

Heh, found the marketplace Derpy. It's in the cherry stand sequence. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:40 PM

I didn't notice during the episode, but it's since been pointed out to me.

Minotaur holding his self assertiveness training course inside a maze/ labyrinth.

Awesome~

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:41 PM


Note the clasp on Bon Bon's bag!


Ponies play golf!


And Derpy's clasp!



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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:45 PM

All sorts of things going on in this one...



Derpy, of course.

Carrot Top, there to learn how to keep Derpy from emptying her fridge.

Bon Bon...is there something we don't know about her relationship with Lyra, or is she there to learn how to stick with one voice?

And why are the Doctor and Romana there....what do they know that we don't?



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