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@  Smokey : (06 May 2016 - 11:32 AM)

Darker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than hell itself... That is coffee.

@  OrionPax44 : (06 May 2016 - 11:21 AM)

Don't let him get to it. You know how he mixes with coffee. Uh oh here we go again.

@  MEDdMI : (06 May 2016 - 11:20 AM)

Trite! *throws coffee mug*

@  OrionPax44 : (06 May 2016 - 11:13 AM)

*Sips his coffee* settle down Cornholio

@  Smokey : (06 May 2016 - 10:41 AM)

ARE YOU THREATENING ME?!

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Settle down Beavis.

@  Smokey : (06 May 2016 - 09:13 AM)

HE SAID "PUD," AND THEN "DING!"

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"At this point, he probably is."

@  MEDdMI : (06 May 2016 - 06:09 AM)

Did someone say pudding?

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MY EYE! My doctor said I wasn't supposed to get pudding in it!

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NOT LENNY!

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CIVIL WAR!!!! WOOOO!!!

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 May 2016 - 02:06 AM)

Something about "Universe on Fire" speaks to me.

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4:30

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Its $:30 in the morning. Im awake because I've discovered the band Gloryhammer

@  OrionPax44 : (06 May 2016 - 12:05 AM)

Shirley you don't wanna go there

@  RichardT1977 : (05 May 2016 - 11:45 PM)

Listen, Betty, don't start with your "white zone" s*** again.

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 03:54 PM)

Damn zoning laws.

@  OrionPax44 : (05 May 2016 - 03:53 PM)

All this zoning is starting to cross the line here.

@  Rycochet : (05 May 2016 - 03:34 PM)

Earth's most powerful soldiers are earth's last chance against the Spiral Zone!

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 03:31 PM)

RANDOM ZOOOOOOONE!

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 03:24 PM)

Want to buy car parts and hope they actually give you the right ones? Head to Auto Zone.

@  The Doctor Who : (05 May 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Want to build a shop and don't know where it's legal? Go to the Commercial Zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM)

Careful with these jokes, they could lead us right into the Danger Zone.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (05 May 2016 - 03:20 PM)

You're running to make a touchdown, when suddenly, you hear Linkin Park - In The End Zone.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (05 May 2016 - 03:17 PM)

The Princess of Friendship's secret dungeon - the Twilight Zone.

@  The Doctor Who : (05 May 2016 - 03:14 PM)

When you go to bed at 10, wake up at 6 and only get seven hours sleep? You just got Time Zoned!

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 03:11 PM)

what's with this checkered orange dirt? why are there crab robots here? oh dammit I got green hill zoned again

@  Puny Flesh C... : (05 May 2016 - 02:18 PM)

I actually thought about changing my username to'Captain Friendzone' - cos it's ironic yeah? ;)

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 01:47 PM)

@Paladin: Yep, that's what a friendzone is.

@  Locoman : (05 May 2016 - 01:00 PM)

I knew someone who got put in the calzone by a girl. Tomato sauce burns are no laughing matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 12:57 PM)

If you leave your mass graves open for random people to lie naked in, you're doing it wrong.

@  Paladin : (05 May 2016 - 12:53 PM)

isn't "friendzone" a made-up thing creepers use to comfort themselves when they get shot down by women who wouldn't willingly lie naked with them in a mass grave?

@  The Predaking : (05 May 2016 - 12:49 PM)

"You need to give up climbing that tree. That tree is so far gone, that it is cut down, made into 2X4s and it now a coat closet in Dallas."

@  The Predaking : (05 May 2016 - 12:48 PM)

I was discussing with my co-worker about him getting out of the friend zone with this girl:

@  Smokey : (05 May 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I smell BACON! BACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACON IT'S BACONNNNN!

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 12:12 PM)

I'm not. I wallow in your misery.

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 11:58 AM)

Yeah, so ham I.

@  OrionPax44 : (05 May 2016 - 11:20 AM)

Let me just say ahead of time that I'm suey for the pun

@  Steevy Maximus : (05 May 2016 - 10:44 AM)

I'm sure some are squealing with delight

@  ▲ndrusi : (05 May 2016 - 10:40 AM)

Great, a bacon pun. Now people making pig puns will hog the chatbox.

@  TheMightyMol... : (05 May 2016 - 02:20 AM)

I herd puns in here, what's the situbacon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (05 May 2016 - 01:30 AM)

You've caused a stampede.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 11:22 PM)

Truly moooving things, Foffy.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (04 May 2016 - 11:16 PM)

What have I done?

@  unluckiness : (04 May 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Don't have a cow, man.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 11:07 PM)

Dude, calm down! What's your beef man?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 May 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Are you so sure about that? I don't think you've considered what's at steak here.

@  MidnightFox : (04 May 2016 - 10:56 PM)

No need to buffalo anyone.

@  The Doctor Who : (04 May 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Is that all it takes for you to cowtow? Aren't you going to try and milk it a bit more?


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#1 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:50 AM

So, I took a stroll today down to Toys R Us and Target. Hey, they had Prime toys out!

Want to know what they had between the two stores?

15 BUMBLEBEES and Two Cliffjumpers.

And, BTW, they're sitting next to DotM Bumblebee's in both stores.

This is what is known as a 'bad start' to a toyline.

So I take a glance over at Robot Kingdom where there's some more distribution lists. In case you don't know what's coming.

http://robotkingdom....i...=91&lang=us

Wave 1:
3 Bumblebees, 2 Cliffjumper and Wheeljacks, 1 Soundwave

Wave 2:
3 MORE BUMBLEBEES (and 1 of Soundwave, Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, Arcee and Ratchet).

Wow that's awful, I wonder what Wave 3-

ANOTHER GODDAMNED BUMBLEBEE, 2 Hot Shots (WHO IS A BUMBLEBEE REPAINT), 2 Knockouts, 1 Ratchet, Arcee and... 1 Vehicon.

So, just to be clear, in the first three waves, there are 7 BUMBLEBEES AND 2 BUMBLEBEE REPAINTS = with 3 Wheeljack/Cliffjumpers, and 2 of everything else. Except the Vehicon.

That's right, they shortpacked the first natural troop builder we've gotten years.


In short, WHAT THE HELL IS WITH HASBRO AND BUMBLEBEE? I know the theory is that Kids Want Bumblebee's, but I think DotM proved the Bumblebee craze is over - or at least lessoned. Does anything that's happened in the last couple of years justify 7 Bumblebees and 2 Bumblebee repaints (not to mention a Leader class coming later) in the first 3 waves? They're ALREADY shelfwarming!

So who here is dreading another year of straight Bumblebee's clogging shelves?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:55 AM

Retailers Determine Case Assortments.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:55 AM

As I've said elsewhere, my TRU is already two full pegs of about 20 Prime Bumblebees, one peg of Legion Bumblebees. Next to DOTM Shelfwarmers.

And then Walmart had 4 Bumblebees, a Cliffjumper, and two Voyager Primes.

Yeah, it's gotten old already.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:55 AM

im buying takara mostly so mostly i dont care

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:57 AM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Mar 1 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I've said elsewhere, my TRU is already two full pegs of about 20 Prime Bumblebees, one peg of Legion Bumblebees. Next to DOTM Shelfwarmers.

And then Walmart had 4 Bumblebees, a Cliffjumper, and two Voyager Primes.

Yeah, it's gotten old already.


Who wants to take a bet on that we're not going to get any TF Prime toys past wave, say, 4? Maybe 5?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Mar 2 2012, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Mar 1 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I've said elsewhere, my TRU is already two full pegs of about 20 Prime Bumblebees, one peg of Legion Bumblebees. Next to DOTM Shelfwarmers.

And then Walmart had 4 Bumblebees, a Cliffjumper, and two Voyager Primes.

Yeah, it's gotten old already.


Who wants to take a bet on that we're not going to get any TF Prime toys past wave, say, 4? Maybe 5?

Five waves is probably about right. At which time Prime Bumblebees will still be clogging the shelves. This discussion kind of already happened two weeks ago in regards to market oversaturation and stagnation. I think it was in the First Edition thread? Retailers consider Bumblebee and Prime to be the Superman/Batman/random current movie superhero and always want those two on the shelves in some form. It sucks. Hard.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:34 AM

It's kind of amazing how hard it is to collect a robot cast the same size as Beast Wars' first season.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:52 AM

This is the point where I break out that picture of all the Bumblebees I own icon-fire.gif

It's the same way over here. The stores started carrying Prime figures and guess what mute, yellow bot is clogging up the shelves already? Yes! It's the Bumblejerk himself.

You would think the retailers would have caught on by now... I mean, I'm sure they like selling their toys, right? So, if they determine case assortments, then why do they keep doing the same thing that left them with clogged shelves the last time?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 01:56 AM

I'm with you, Fwiff. I actually overpaid for PRID Megatron when I was at TRU last week because I was so sick of finding nothing except Bumblebees (they had six on the shelves, meaning they sold through the entirety of two cases, EXCEPT for Bee).

Now that HTS has removed all PRID deluxe listings from their site - sans BB, of course - I'm pretty much done. I'm throwing in the towel. Not being able to buy the figures I want at retail is one thing but when I basically have no options online (at least no options that don't include buying one or more Bumblebees) then this hobby starts getting to the point of being too frustrating to put up with. Throw in all the canceled figures we've failed to get recently, an entire subline (movie trilogy) that's exclusive to a foreign market (necessitating higher prices if I want to get any of those figures), and rising personal expenses and I just can't be bothered anymore.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:07 AM

Remember back in the day when for a 7 year stretch there where exactly 4 BBs ever
Or the Beast-RiD era when there where no Batman/Superman type character

Im sick of BB not haveing a voice the jokes old already BB is not R2-D2


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:26 AM

QUOTE(tec @ Mar 2 2012, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or the Beast-RiD era when there where no Batman/Superman type character
Seven Optimus Primal toys. Six Beast Wars Megatron toys. Six Cheetor toys. You were saying?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:57 AM

yes but never over satration like with BB or Tuner Mudflap

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:40 AM

Yeah, because the line was nowhere near as successful then as it is now.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:01 AM

Could Hasbro be doing this intentionally to accumulate public animosity toward Bee in order to justify his grusome termination some point down the road, as oppose to the public outrage triggered by the death of Optimus Prime back in 1986?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:07 AM

I'm trying to figure out when the overBeeing started. Movie 1? Movie 2? I don't really remember it being bad at all with movie 1. Then with movie 2 we had something like this but with the twins.

Something's so out of whack.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:44 AM

I'm having a hard time trying discern which of you are being sarcastic/snarky and which are being dead serious/ranting.

I'm throwing my lot in with this whole thread being ridiculous.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Megatoron @ Mar 2 2012, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could Hasbro be doing this intentionally to accumulate public animosity toward Bee in order to justify his grusome termination some point down the road, as oppose to the public outrage triggered by the death of Optimus Prime back in 1986?


Uh...probably not.

I love the idea of Hasbro intentionally making truckloads of toys that won't sell, just so people won't complain about something that would happen in a cartoon, though.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:34 AM

Not only don't retailers determine case assortments they ("they" = pretty much any brick & mortar operation) don't even do their (re)orders based on specific cases.

TRU/WalMart/Target etc. says we need more TFs: Prime dlxs./Avengers movie 3 3/4" figs./ G.I. Joe movie 2 Bravo class vehicles and so on and so forth and Hasbro sends whatever the fornicate they feel like.

They can pull off this little stunt b/c the big box retailers don't give 1/69th the thought into these toys that the collectors do.

The flipside of this coin is that the etailers make out like bandits b/c they sell specific figs and cases that Hasbro has to deliver.

EE sells me case "Y" of Hasbro's Star Wars Vintage collection figure and they (they = EE) have to deliver that specific case they advertise and in turn I ordered or they don't get my money. Hasbro has to deliver to the etailers exactly what the etailers order.

Hasbro can't just toss case after case of wave 1 of line "X" to the etailers b/c the etailers won't take them. WalMart/TRU/etc. they don't give an excrement.

I honestly don't know if, after all this time some of you who have been collectors and/or in the fandom for so many years, that you folks haven't picked up on this on purpose and think it's funny to make ignorant posts about how the sky is falling or if you are being willfully oblivious.

It's not some great conspiracy (over produce Bumblebee figs. so Hasbro can kill off the character? Are you serious?) Hasbro and the retailers/etailers are interested in only ONE thing. PROFIT!!!11one

Could Hasbro make even more money with better case ratios? Almost definetly. But it seems that everyone is satisfied with the status quo as far as the profit side of things are concerned that things don't look to be changing. At least in the near future. :-/

Perhaps all of the items that from various Hasbro lines that have either been cancelled or turned into Asian market/Canadian market/Ross and/or other discount store "exclusives" are the result of the mistakes that both Hasbro and the retailers have continually made over the last several years.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:51 AM

I want a Bumblebee for my backyard like Michael Bay has.

And a backyard to put it in.

But beyond that, I'm good. I have Classics, Stealth Movie, Animated, Legends, Movie Legends (old version), and a knock-off of Classic Pretender from G1. I guess I could do with a Prime version, but that's just it: a Prime version...

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE(TSM-in-N.Y. @ Mar 2 2012, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not only don't retailers determine case assortments they ("they" = pretty much any brick & mortar operation) don't even do their (re)orders based on specific cases.

TRU/WalMart/Target etc. says we need more TFs: Prime dlxs./Avengers movie 3 3/4" figs./ G.I. Joe movie 2 Bravo class vehicles and so on and so forth and Hasbro sends whatever the fornicate they feel like.

They can pull off this little stunt b/c the big box retailers don't give 1/69th the thought into these toys that the collectors do.

The flipside of this coin is that the etailers make out like bandits b/c they sell specific figs and cases that Hasbro has to deliver.

EE sells me case "Y" of Hasbro's Star Wars Vintage collection figure and they (they = EE) have to deliver that specific case they advertise and in turn I ordered or they don't get my money. Hasbro has to deliver to the etailers exactly what the etailers order.

Hasbro can't just toss case after case of wave 1 of line "X" to the etailers b/c the etailers won't take them. WalMart/TRU/etc. they don't give an excrement.

I honestly don't know if, after all this time some of you who have been collectors and/or in the fandom for so many years, that you folks haven't picked up on this on purpose and think it's funny to make ignorant posts about how the sky is falling or if you are being willfully oblivious.

It's not some great conspiracy (over produce Bumblebee figs. so Hasbro can kill off the character? Are you serious?) Hasbro and the retailers/etailers are interested in only ONE thing. PROFIT!!!11one

Could Hasbro make even more money with better case ratios? Almost definetly. But it seems that everyone is satisfied with the status quo as far as the profit side of things are concerned that things don't look to be changing. At least in the near future. :-/

Perhaps all of the items that from various Hasbro lines that have either been cancelled or turned into Asian market/Canadian market/Ross and/or other discount store "exclusives" are the result of the mistakes that both Hasbro and the retailers have continually made over the last several years.


Your friend, TSM-in-N.Y.


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We're not talking on the brick and mortar level. We're talking on the corporate level. And yes, the corporate level buyers have a huge impact on which toys Hasbro makes.



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