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A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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#1 B-Fox

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

I'm thinking of picking up one or the other, but would like to know which is the better toy. No need to mention the alt-modes of either since I'm mostly concerned with the robot modes and know how half-arsed both are in that department vs. accuracy.

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#2 Canthros

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:42 PM

Assuming that the Ultimate Battle mold is the United Optimus you're thinking of, I happen to like the Robot Masters figure better, which probably puts me in the minority. I think the proportions on Robot Masters Convoy came out better, I like the head sculpt better, and I think the cleaner sculpt on the robot mode looks better.

That said, Robot Masters Convoy is a pretty mediocre toy qua toy. (OTOH, I really wasn't impressed with Ultimate Battle Optimus.)

IMHO, YMMV, etc.

Edited by Canthros, 29 February 2012 - 09:44 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

The Robot Masters Optimus certainly looks much better in robot mode, and has a nice head sculpt. But, it's a very light-feeling toy, and mine snapped right in half at the waist swivel after maybe four transformations. I've never owned the Deluxe toy, but always thought it looked pretty terrible in both modes.

For my money, the best G1 Optimus Prime toy is the Classics Voyager mold. I've got five versions of it!

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM

Deluxe Prime. The Robot Masters one is just poor all around, while the Deluxe just has a poor vehicle mode.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:57 PM

Yeah the Voyager and United (not RtS) Laser Optimus are better toys than either of these. While I don't think neither Deluxe sized G1 Optimus figures are all that great, I definitely think the United/Classics/Universe Deluxe Optimus is better than the Robot Masters version. The RM version has a strange head (not that the United/Classics/Universe one doesn't, just not as strange). Plus it seems a bit fragile and there isn't much it can do. Though the action feature (which can be disabled) may run the United/Classics/Universe one for you.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:00 PM

Honestly, they both suck ass. Ugly in both modes that don't even attempt to really hide anything in vehicle mode. If you HAD to go with either of them, United looks the least like ass. At least in Robot mode, and had a pretty cool gun.

I prefer Classics/Henkei Optimus Prime myself, as he actually looks good in both modes.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

The Prime only looks bad in vehicle mode. The robot mode, aside from the strange head is totally fine, more than decent.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:21 PM

RM Prime is super cool. He's too small for any kind of Classics collection, but on his own (or with Robot Masters...) he's pretty nice, I think. The truck mode has even grown on me. I really dig his head, though.



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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

Does RM Prime have Tornado Torso Action?

I didn't think so.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:13 PM

I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 29 2012, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.


Which still puts him miles a ahead of any other modern G1 Prime that isn't a masterpiece. As RM and United primes alt modes come "pre-ruined" not bothering to look like anything other then Prime folded into an L shape. Bumper never bothered me as it doesn't restrict any movement and And many TFs tend to not look good from behind.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

I prefer the RM version since he's kind of a Basic/Scout G1 Prime with good articulation, which I find to be neat. And he doesn't look like you just busted in on him in the shower like Deluxe Classics Prime does. Those eyes...

Otherwise, it's kind of a matter of opinion. Deluxe Prime is probably cheaper right now, though.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:12 AM

Classics Prime looks fine without his rifle/air dam. He's solid, and though he has some kibble, it doesn't hinder much and makes the truck look like an actual truck.

I personally like RM Prime over the spinny wide eyed Prime due to the better looking head and general body.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

If you are simply looking for a G1 Optimus action figure, the Revoltech toy would be my reccomendation. He suffers from "Pat Lee Head", but he can do all your favorite street fighter poses.

If you want a transforming one, I would go for United Prime, he has better articulation and balance then the HM figure, and the HM figure is very thin and prone to breakeage.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

What about Hybrid Style Convoy the vehical suffers some but not as bad as thses two
And looks stellar in robot mode

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:17 AM

That thing is hideously Pat Lee filled.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:29 AM

Don't bother with either. Just get a CHOP.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:34 AM

yeah the best thing about the classics one is that you can throw him away and give his gun to anybody else...

if you could just buy the gun, I'd go that route


Edited by Destron D-69, 01 March 2012 - 12:42 AM.

With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:30 AM

The Robot Master one is far nicer, especially if you're prioritising robot mode.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:08 AM

Neither are great toys.

It depends on what you want.

RM Prime has the axe accessory, if that matters.

Personally, I actually like the 2 pack Prime better.


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