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@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

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@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)


@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)


@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)


@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 06:29 PM)

So apparently the 2016 remake of "Instruments of Destruction" is out. I'm still waiting for an Amazon download to become available, but the clips I heard thus far sound cool. They're using the uncensored lyrics!

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RM Convoy vs United Optimus Prime

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#1 B-Fox

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

I'm thinking of picking up one or the other, but would like to know which is the better toy. No need to mention the alt-modes of either since I'm mostly concerned with the robot modes and know how half-arsed both are in that department vs. accuracy.



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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:42 PM

Assuming that the Ultimate Battle mold is the United Optimus you're thinking of, I happen to like the Robot Masters figure better, which probably puts me in the minority. I think the proportions on Robot Masters Convoy came out better, I like the head sculpt better, and I think the cleaner sculpt on the robot mode looks better.

That said, Robot Masters Convoy is a pretty mediocre toy qua toy. (OTOH, I really wasn't impressed with Ultimate Battle Optimus.)

IMHO, YMMV, etc.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

The Robot Masters Optimus certainly looks much better in robot mode, and has a nice head sculpt. But, it's a very light-feeling toy, and mine snapped right in half at the waist swivel after maybe four transformations. I've never owned the Deluxe toy, but always thought it looked pretty terrible in both modes.

For my money, the best G1 Optimus Prime toy is the Classics Voyager mold. I've got five versions of it!

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM

Deluxe Prime. The Robot Masters one is just poor all around, while the Deluxe just has a poor vehicle mode.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:57 PM

Yeah the Voyager and United (not RtS) Laser Optimus are better toys than either of these. While I don't think neither Deluxe sized G1 Optimus figures are all that great, I definitely think the United/Classics/Universe Deluxe Optimus is better than the Robot Masters version. The RM version has a strange head (not that the United/Classics/Universe one doesn't, just not as strange). Plus it seems a bit fragile and there isn't much it can do. Though the action feature (which can be disabled) may run the United/Classics/Universe one for you.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:00 PM

Honestly, they both suck ass. Ugly in both modes that don't even attempt to really hide anything in vehicle mode. If you HAD to go with either of them, United looks the least like ass. At least in Robot mode, and had a pretty cool gun.

I prefer Classics/Henkei Optimus Prime myself, as he actually looks good in both modes.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

The Prime only looks bad in vehicle mode. The robot mode, aside from the strange head is totally fine, more than decent.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:21 PM

RM Prime is super cool. He's too small for any kind of Classics collection, but on his own (or with Robot Masters...) he's pretty nice, I think. The truck mode has even grown on me. I really dig his head, though.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

Does RM Prime have Tornado Torso Action?

I didn't think so.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:13 PM

I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 29 2012, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.

Which still puts him miles a ahead of any other modern G1 Prime that isn't a masterpiece. As RM and United primes alt modes come "pre-ruined" not bothering to look like anything other then Prime folded into an L shape. Bumper never bothered me as it doesn't restrict any movement and And many TFs tend to not look good from behind.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

I prefer the RM version since he's kind of a Basic/Scout G1 Prime with good articulation, which I find to be neat. And he doesn't look like you just busted in on him in the shower like Deluxe Classics Prime does. Those eyes...

Otherwise, it's kind of a matter of opinion. Deluxe Prime is probably cheaper right now, though.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:12 AM

Classics Prime looks fine without his rifle/air dam. He's solid, and though he has some kibble, it doesn't hinder much and makes the truck look like an actual truck.

I personally like RM Prime over the spinny wide eyed Prime due to the better looking head and general body.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

If you are simply looking for a G1 Optimus action figure, the Revoltech toy would be my reccomendation. He suffers from "Pat Lee Head", but he can do all your favorite street fighter poses.

If you want a transforming one, I would go for United Prime, he has better articulation and balance then the HM figure, and the HM figure is very thin and prone to breakeage.

Edited by Llwynoh, 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

What about Hybrid Style Convoy the vehical suffers some but not as bad as thses two
And looks stellar in robot mode

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:17 AM

That thing is hideously Pat Lee filled.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:29 AM

Don't bother with either. Just get a CHOP.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:34 AM

yeah the best thing about the classics one is that you can throw him away and give his gun to anybody else...

if you could just buy the gun, I'd go that route

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:30 AM

The Robot Master one is far nicer, especially if you're prioritising robot mode.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:08 AM

Neither are great toys.

It depends on what you want.

RM Prime has the axe accessory, if that matters.

Personally, I actually like the 2 pack Prime better.

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