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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#41 Powered Convoy

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

The head reminds me of Jazz's from FoC for some reason but obviously it's a Decepticon.

Edited by Powered Convoy, 01 March 2012 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 1 2012, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The head reminds me of Jazz's from FoC for some reason but obviously it's a Decepticon.


Could it be one of the guys from the upcoming set? Just wondering: he looks familiar but I can't place him (not that my knowledge is anywhere near the level of Walky).

Oh, and how long before someone can take the preview pages, and edit the word balloons so the discussion is all about Overlord's poutty lips?
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:47 PM

Ursa Magnus being in Axiom Nexus does present something of a plot hole.

There are no lowtech Primes, Magnuses, Hot Rods, Starscreams, Megatrons, or any of their doppelgangers in Axiom Nexus. On purpose. You know, to keep trouble from happening. Those folks get kicked out before they even know they're in it, booted back to their home universe. I would think Ursa Magnus would be included in that.

#44 Ursa Magnus

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

Were Magnuses included in that rule? I always thought it was just applicable to Primes/Convoys and Megatrons.

For Ursa, if this helps, "Magnus" is a rank handled in the same way "Prime" and such was in the Animated continuity. I always handled it in the following order: Minor, Major, Maximus, Magnus, Prime. So he has the rank of Magnus, and nothing more. No different than having a military title of Lieutenant-Commander or Commander under a Captain.

He is in no way related to or descended from Ultra Magnus. He's just a guy who got promoted to that rank in his dimension's military hierarchy.

Edited by Ursa Magnus, 05 March 2012 - 03:11 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:03 PM

Well, specifically "Matrix-bearers" and "charismatic leader-types."

Ultra Magnuses have Matrices in several continuities. And in Animated, Magnus is the top-ranking everything, making him the Optimus Prime-analog of that continuity family.

Also, we've never seen a lowtech Magnus in an Axiom Nexus story.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

Granted.

Heh, well I guess it's something I never had to really consider given that he's a fan character and I never thought he'd get an actual TFWiki entry.

And Axiom Nexus made sense from a story perspective given what happened to him at the end of Drivaaar's "Out of Time" story. It made sense that thrown through time might end him up in Axiom Nexus. Plus, Pete was kind enough to allow me to use it as the setting for the Allspark Sourcebook.

And... maybe we should continue this discussion to the Wiki thread? I don't want to derail discussion of the pages any more than necessary.

Edited by Ursa Magnus, 01 March 2012 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

Hrm... Looks like this was a wink wink nod nod that I missed lol. No biggie as Beamers and Nightvipers character appeared in Axiom years back (and no one caught that)

Anyways, short answer - He's TT Ursa Magnus

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Mar 2 2012, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, specifically "Matrix-bearers" and "charismatic leader-types."

Ultra Magnuses have Matrices in several continuities. And in Animated, Magnus is the top-ranking everything, making him the Optimus Prime-analog of that continuity family.

Also, we've never seen a lowtech Magnus in an Axiom Nexus story.


We have seen a Lowtech Megatron, though. Albeit BW Megs

Had Pete not just posted a reason, I'd just say he somehow got in the same way BW Megatron was there

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE(Mecheon @ Mar 1 2012, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Mar 2 2012, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, specifically "Matrix-bearers" and "charismatic leader-types."

Ultra Magnuses have Matrices in several continuities. And in Animated, Magnus is the top-ranking everything, making him the Optimus Prime-analog of that continuity family.

Also, we've never seen a lowtech Magnus in an Axiom Nexus story.


We have seen a Lowtech Megatron, though. Albeit BW Megs

Had Pete not just posted a reason, I'd just say he somehow got in the same way BW Megatron was there


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Mar 1 2012, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am shamed to admit that I still have no idea who the Decepticon on this screen is: http://tfwiki.net/wi...ogue-Rhinox.jpg

I feel like it should be obvious, and once it is pointed out, I will cry for days.


I first thought SG Treadshot or an upcoming recolor. Is that a red faction symbol?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE(Pete@BotCon @ Mar 1 2012, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hrm... Looks like this was a wink wink nod nod that I missed lol. No biggie as Beamers and Nightvipers character appeared in Axiom years back (and no one caught that)


Indeed, and I'm grateful for the nod.

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Anyways, short answer - He's TT Ursa Magnus


EDIT: TransTech Ursa? Yeah, I can do that...



Edited by Ursa Magnus, 01 March 2012 - 05:46 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Pete@BotCon @ Mar 1 2012, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, short answer - He's TT Ursa Magnus
To the wiki!

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Mar 1 2012, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Pete@BotCon @ Mar 1 2012, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, short answer - He's TT Ursa Magnus
To the wiki!

The wiki has already wicked.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#54 Ursa Magnus

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

I'm Wiki'd! *dances*

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:33 PM

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I'm Wiki'd! *dances*
Always a fun moment.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

icon-arcee.gif I guess that means I'm Hasbro Property now. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:29 PM

Now you have to ask permission before using Ursa Magnus.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:04 PM

Wouldn't Funpub have to ask him permission to use his IP (not like he wouldn't give it of course)? Or would the character be PD because Ursa Magnus didn't put copyright notices on it?

Edited by mignash, 01 March 2012 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:13 PM

Ursa Magnus was already a derivative work based in Hasbro's shared universe. There is no real way to claim copyright on him unless you're Hasbro or a licensee.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:29 PM

Eh, I lost interest in the very first panel. I'm not a big fan of the Transformers multiverse schtick, but it's as capable of having a good story as any other setting. However, heavy-handed sci-fi narration about the Transformers multiverse already tells me that this is going in a direction I won't care for. I don't go to Transformers for hard sci-fi -- there's too much of that available better elsewhere, and it's not what I like about the TF franchise in the first place.

I sorta knew it was coming based on this year's theme, but I suppose I was hoping we'd get something with less Star-Trek technobabble. To me, that stuff is just trying too hard to be something Transformers really isn't.

But, obviously plenty of people like it. Nothin' wrong with that. just not my thing at all.



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