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@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?


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#21 Robowang

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:23 AM

I was a bit worried when taking out the screws, but it ended up being fine. I suppose "mileage may vary" when attempting a fix/solution.

What I really need is access to a 3D scanner. I know someone with access to a 3D printer (the good kind!) and I would LOVE to start reproducing gold plastic G1/G2 parts.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:54 PM

There's also repro parts like Darkov on tfw2005 does. For example I think he has (or at least had) a Black Zarak kit.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:13 PM

In theory, these fractures happen at a space where stress is applied, and especially in areas where stress is concentrated due to the shape of the material (right angled corners, regions that narrow, nubs, etc.). So in theory, removing the shape factor that causes the stress concentration, or disassembling the piece such that it is no longer under stress should reduce the chance of fracture or collapse. However, as has been stated, this implies that the piece can be modified or disassembled without exceeding the critical stress for fracture, which may not be the case if physical properties have been compromised by the GPS process.

Will this solve the problem? No. The material will still be at the same risk of fracture or failure. However, the one silver lining in gold plastic is that in many examples, failure occurs at a consistent location. This, at least to me, means stress concentrators are probably playing a role in those spots, and may be exacerbated by shape factors, decohesion, and possibly even casting conditions. So knowing what to watch out for might make it easier to hold onto a complete figure.

Edited by Aernaroth, 29 February 2012 - 05:32 PM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:20 PM

Thank you Aernaroth aka Preceptor

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:21 PM

my Transmetal Megatron is still fine...

course he suffers from the sister sickness Bronze Plastic plague ...not your standard gps
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Feb 29 2012, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's also repro parts like Darkov on tfw2005 does. For example I think he has (or at least had) a Black Zarak kit.

Darkov is dropping out of the repro parts business, perhaps permanently.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE(Robowang @ Feb 29 2012, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was a bit worried when taking out the screws, but it ended up being fine. I suppose "mileage may vary" when attempting a fix/solution.

Of course, don't get me wrong, I've dismantled several figures which have been fine as well, but it's just one of those things you can't bet on. Loosening screws may stave off GPS for a while longer, or it might just break it there and then.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:36 PM

This just in: all 2013 Generations figures to be made of painted-over swirly, sparkly, gold plastic.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Feb 29 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 28 2012, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The last time GPS popped up would be Micromaster Superion. I'd hoped it would have been the last.

Ah man, that doesn't make me happy to learn. I thought G2 Slingshot and Torca were the only ones I had to worry about in my collection. icon-screamer.gif



QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 29 2012, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone have a list of recent figures (made in the last 10 years, not reissues) that suffer from this problem?

That'd actually be a very short list. Off the top of my head, between 2002 and now, only two mass market figures have used GPS-prone plastic, that being Cybertron Repugnus (although his gold parts aren't under much stress and don't really need to move, so they probably will be okay) and Micromaster Superion who is loaded with it. Almost all the white combiner parts are actually swirly gold plastic painted over in white. There were already reports of breakage as of last year, specifically in the clips that hold the fists on.

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Feb 29 2012, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This just in: all 2013 Generations figures to be made of painted-over swirly, sparkly, gold plastic.

Cue official Transformers sad trombone. Again...

Edited by Spark, 29 February 2012 - 11:58 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:09 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 29 2012, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cybertron Repugnus


... you're kidding!! Oh man.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:06 AM

I remember some people having problems with the protoform Starscream (or maybe it was Optimus) from the first movie preview wave. People were worried about it there.

And movie 1 Scorponok's tail. The small version that came with Blackout, I think? Something like that?

I remember people saying they had problems with both, and speculating GPS.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:35 AM

I think the movie Scorponok that had tail problems is the Legends one.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:32 AM

QUOTE(Cat @ Mar 1 2012, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember some people having problems with the protoform Starscream (or maybe it was Optimus) from the first movie preview wave. People were worried about it there.

And movie 1 Scorponok's tail. The small version that came with Blackout, I think? Something like that?

I remember people saying they had problems with both, and speculating GPS.


If memory serves, one guy reported his Protoform Starscream going through GPS-like symptoms, and that was after he did some custom painting with it. May not be the same thing.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE(Cat @ Mar 1 2012, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember some people having problems with the protoform Starscream (or maybe it was Optimus) from the first movie preview wave. People were worried about it there.

And movie 1 Scorponok's tail. The small version that came with Blackout, I think? Something like that?

I remember people saying they had problems with both, and speculating GPS.

Scorponok was the Legends version, and it wasn't GPS. It's the rubbery plastic drying out and cracking apart. The result isn't much different, though.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

My movie 1 Protoform Starscream in in my neices and nefuws toy box if something breaks I will let you know its been there sence the 1st movie came out on DVD

And nothings broke on it yet

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:39 PM

My BW10 Dinobot pretty much disintegrated.
And I'm afraid to transform my protoform Starscream just because of his color.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Mar 1 2012, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember some people having problems with the protoform Starscream (or maybe it was Optimus) from the first movie preview wave. People were worried about it there.

And movie 1 Scorponok's tail. The small version that came with Blackout, I think? Something like that?

I remember people saying they had problems with both, and speculating GPS.

What Echowarrior and TMM said is correct. The Protoform Starscream was a false alarm that's turned into a persistent scare.


QUOTE(RCX @ Mar 1 2012, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My BW10 Dinobot pretty much disintegrated.
And I'm afraid to transform my protoform Starscream just because of his color.

Um... 10 Anniversary BW Dinobot isn't really gold, and I've never read about it falling apart. I don't even recall his plastic being swirly. How did it happen?
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