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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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Any bad toys you have a particular fondness for?


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

For the purpose of this topic, I'll call "bad" a toy that the fandom in general thinks of as bad even if you don't personally, since this is about bad toys you actually like.



I like the late eighties toys. Those were my years. In particular, the Triggerbots and Triggercons. Plastic bricks they may be with limited articulation but I don't care - the nostalgia towards picking five out of the six up while on vacation that summer overcomes that. It was the card art that brought them to life for me. Crankcase, Backstreet and Windsweeper being my favorites. Don't think I ever did get Dogfight.

I'm also drawn towards Quickswitch. Sixshot never appearing in England, Quickswitch was my first six-changer. I just found him so versatile at the time despite his lack of articulation. He was the swiss army knife of Transformers.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:09 PM

To all those who consider the Energon Powerlinx Deluxes/Voyagers "bad toys", I say "screw you" icon-waspy.gif.

Sadly, I no longer own any of them... icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:09 PM

I always liked Armada Hot Shot.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:12 PM

I plead the fifth.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

I've got soft spots for the Throttlebots and Beast Machines Maximals myself.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:29 PM

i never understood the hate for the armada sideswipe mold. was it amazing? no. was it some abomonation which should be hidden away forever? no. i think it's a neat figure, which is why i have so many versions of it plus a custom one

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:29 PM

Armada Sideswipe, since I bought the testshot figure to get out early pictures of it - and my version has a bitching lightning deco pattern on the side that didn't make it to the final product.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:31 PM

Another vote for Armada Sideswipe. Really, he's no worse than a typical G1 toy.

Cybertron Soundwave too. I've never had the problem some people report with his legs buckling, and his alt-mode's not supposed to be a convincing Earth form anyway, so the legs being visible in fighter mode don't bug me. Plus, with a little imagination, his right arm-kibble becomes a Gundam-style buster shield. . .

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:35 PM

Cybertron Overhaul is a pretty crap toy, but I dunno, I just like it.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

I also really liked Armada Smokescreen and not just for Liftor.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:05 PM

Well... I really like all the Classics figures, even the Seeker molds and Ratchet/Ironhide, despite how much some people seem to hate them these days.

I, uh, honestly never really pay much attention to how much other people like my favorites.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:10 PM

I love Break dearly. I know he doesn't transform so much as curl up inside a shell, and I know half of his mass is in one arm. But he is a penguin and also has a great robot color scheme, so he is glorious.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:19 PM

Apparently Armada Sideswipe has a lot of fans, as I like the character and the toy. I am looking forward to his Shattered Glass counterpart as a replacement though.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:26 PM


I LOVE the Jumpstarters. Love Them.

-ZacWilliam, also loves the Pretenders. Every single one.

And NO I don't consider either groups bad toys in any way, but I know there are folks who do, so...
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:46 AM

It seems like a sizable portion of the fandom considers the Energon combiners to be "bad toys", but I really like them. I don't think combiners are meant to be entirely about their combined modes; they're okay deluxes and great basics that can also combine.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:58 AM

I have a great fondness for a lot of toys OTHER people dislike. But I'd never call them BAD toys.

The only toy I personally consider BAD which I still have a strange affection for is Supreme Cheetor. As much as I feel like this is an actual terrible toy -- one I would never buy for someone else -- I've never really regretted owning him, and as much as he frustrates me at times, I still like the thing. Can't really put my finger on why.

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(There's a big difference between, "Actually bad" and "Doesn't fit stupid expectations" CF: Armada Hot Shot, Armada Megatron, Armada Sideswipe -- all GREAT toys that people rag on because they have stupid, unreasonable expectations.)

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:01 AM

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:16 AM

Do the Prentender cars Gunrunner Roadgrabber count as bad?
Because I have a lot of love for thoses two

Jumpstarters who hates Jumpstarters?


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:16 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 24 2012, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was the card art that brought them to life for me.


I always thought it was interesting how the art on the boxes made it look like the figures were bending in ways they were never meant to, even if they did have more articulation for it.

Anyway, Jumpstarters. Twin Twist was my first Transformer, and I hope to get him again someday, as well as his brother.

And put me down for the "not actually BAD" group.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:23 AM

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(There's a big difference between, "Actually bad" and "Doesn't fit stupid expectations" CF: Armada Hot Shot, Armada Megatron, Armada Sideswipe -- all GREAT toys that people rag on because they have stupid, unreasonable expectations.)


Knees are an unreasonable expectation? icon-arcee.gif

That said, I absolutely love Armada. Outside of the Minicons and Lucky Draw I have every single remold/recolor they did with those molds.

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