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@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.


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#1 The Doctor Who

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:36 PM

So, a while back I ordered a Spray and Rager from iGear and when the package arrived, there were two Sprays and no Rager. So, being the penny pincher I am and not particularly wanting a second Spray, I contacted iGear and told them what happened. They asked for a picture as proof (which I provided) and I was told that they were arranging the resend and that I should hold onto the second Spray pending instructions on what to do with it.

Well... the Rager has arrived and he's quite a nice little figure, but... no instructions on what to do with the extra Spray are forthcoming. Nothing in the package, nothing in the box the figure came in and no E-Mails that I can find.

I'm tempted to contact them, but I'm also tempted to just let it be, if for no other reason than to save the bother of shipping it. Still... my conscience nags me.

Has anyone else had to deal with anything like this, particularly with iGear?

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

You can send the extra Spray to me and I'll handle it from there icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

Well look at it this way, assume they meant to send instructions & didn't. If you don't contact them, it could cause issues with you getting anything directly from them.

If you can live with that, then it's your choice not to bother. Up to you.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:13 PM

I'd just go ahead and ask them what they want done with that second Spray.

On one hand, it is, indeed, the right thing to do.

On the other hand, depending upon what factors are at play, they might just let you keep him.



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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:27 PM

Yeah, I pretty much made up my mind to contact them, I was just hoping someone might have had a similar thing happen and have more specific advice.

@Corvus: You're first on the list, if they tell me to keep it.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

Aw. I would've taken that Spray off your hands.

With BBTS, when I've had problems with some of my orders, they invariably send me a replacement part in a full size box, and never ask for the problem part back...which I sometimes feel bad about. It'd usually be easier for them to send these parts in a padded envelope, I think, or add it to my Pile-of-Loot. And if they'd just include a return label or envelope or something, I'd like to send them these problem parts back (Like, if I get something with two left fists, I figure the spare fist does them more good than me).

But they don't, and I assume it's for a decent reason.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Feb 24 2012, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I pretty much made up my mind to contact them, I was just hoping someone might have had a similar thing happen and have more specific advice.

@Corvus: You're first on the list, if they tell me to keep it.

Aw, awesome!

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:20 AM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Feb 24 2012, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aw. I would've taken that Spray off your hands.

With BBTS, when I've had problems with some of my orders, they invariably send me a replacement part in a full size box, and never ask for the problem part back...which I sometimes feel bad about. It'd usually be easier for them to send these parts in a padded envelope, I think, or add it to my Pile-of-Loot. And if they'd just include a return label or envelope or something, I'd like to send them these problem parts back (Like, if I get something with two left fists, I figure the spare fist does them more good than me).

But they don't, and I assume it's for a decent reason.


I've been in the same situation, and figure it would be a logistics nightmare for them to try to keep up with random figure parts all over the place, not to mention the money and time wasted getting them shipped back. Hopefully BBTS can just send back a big pile of the salvaged third party stuff to the makers as damaged/bad quality stuff.

In any case, if Explorer ever breaks his right arm, I have a replacement at hand.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:47 PM

Sent you a PM Good doctor.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

Update:

It's been several weeks (nearly a month, since I sat on it for a week or so) since I contacted them and so far there's been no reply about what to do with this figure. It's rather frustrating. I would rather any reply at all rather than silence.

I feel like I should maybe give it one more try, just in case, but it's been about a month and a half, nearly two since I received the original figures... I don't know what the statute of limitations is on this kind of thing, but I'm tempted to say that, if they really wanted it back, they'd have contacted me by now.

Curse my strong ethical drive... this would be so much easier if I just didn't care XD

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:34 AM

I would give them one more email and give it another week or two and then if no reply I would say its yours for the sake of good business.

Heck Im still waiting on a reply from almost two weeks ago.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:17 AM

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So, a while back I ordered a Spray and Rager from iGear and when the package arrived, there were two Sprays and no Rager.


I ordered a Spray and Rager from BBTS and they sent me two Ragers and no Spray.

Clearly these releases are cursed.

BBTS cleared it up though and now I have one of each. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Mar 24 2012, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would give them one more email and give it another week or two and then if no reply I would say its yours for the sake of good business.

Heck Im still waiting on a reply from almost two weeks ago.



Well at this point, I'd say you've no worries, except mayb how to get the extra Spay to Corvus. And seeing if he'll pony up for s/h.

Still, if you want to send another email, put in the message if, I do not receive a response by x, then I will consider the matter settled, or something to this effect. Making it obvious you tried, while not hanging on the phone for a call that might never come.

Plus, I'm sure Corvus wants his Spray.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:19 PM

As someone who would potentially gain Spray because of this, if it will make ya feel better, shoot em another email and give em another week to respond.

And yes, my ponies will deliver unto me the requisite amount of cash for S&H icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:19 AM

If your conscience is really bugging you, sell the extra figure and send iGear some money. How does shop.igeartoys.com work? Do you pay by paypal? Just paypal them some money then.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:05 AM

Question: did you ever get a response?

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