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@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.


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#1 D Immortalis

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:51 AM

So even though i really dont leave the house anymore the geek in me wants tech...so i decided to get a tablet...i went with the Asus Transformer Prime...mostly because its made of awesome.

So having never owned a tablet or even a cell phone, im a little nervous...are things like those screen protectors really necessary? i always had a hard time helping friends put them on.

Also, besides Shadowgun are there any games i should look into getting? Any recommendations when it comes to bluetooth game controllers?

hehe its sad how excited i am over this thing. =]

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE(Stackups immy @ Feb 23 2012, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So having never owned a tablet or even a cell phone, im a little nervous...are things like those screen protectors really necessary? i always had a hard time helping friends put them on.


Not so much, lately, and they're more useful for phones than they are for tablets anyway. They were vital back when the top surface of the screen was made out of plastic, but now that they're using glass (and specifically damage-resistant glass like gorilla glass) you're already safe from most damage that a screen protector would've been able to help with.

On the other hand, a case for the whole thing could be helpful. They make some pretty nice ones that look like leatherbound notebooks.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:55 AM


Did you get the keyboard dock? I'm typing this message on the first, non-Prime Transformer which has become my laptop of choice. What you have is basically the same thing but better, so I'm kind of jealous.

For controllers, if you've got a USB port (if it's like the original Transformer its on the keyboard dock) a wired 360 controller plugged in works well. A Wii controller can also be connected with the right software via bluetooth.

For games, first off get these free emulators. I have them and I love them. You're on your own for finding roms though, not sure the mods would like me posting that.
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Other fun stuff:
Sonic CD
Sonic 4 Episode 1
Grand Theft Auto III
Age of Zombies
Words with Friends
Hanging with Friends
Minicraft
Plants vs Zombies
Peggle
Fruit Ninja
Cut the Rope
Burn the Rope
Glow Hockey
Death Worm
World of Goo
Osmos

OnLive is an interesting but potentially laggy service. You can use it to stream and play console games to a tablet. Try out a free demo to see if you like it.

Getjar and the Amazon app store's free app-of-the-day have been very valuable in building up my collection of games.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:52 AM

As far as cases, I recommend Caseen: http://www.caseen.co...Prime_c_28.html

Bought one for my original Transformer, keeps it well protected when it's not on my keyboard dock, and looks nice doing it icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:04 AM

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Did you get the keyboard dock? I'm typing this message on the first, non-Prime Transformer which has become my laptop of choice. What you have is basically the same thing but better, so I'm kind of jealous.

Yeah, I got a chance to play with a docked Transformer at Best Buy, and it's a really nice keyboard - I mean, it felt just like typing on my Eee, or any other Asus island-style keyboard. I haven't seen the dock for the Prime, but I imagine it's up to the same standards. (The trackpad didn't feel quite as nice, oddly, but I don't know what to expect with Android and pointer control.)

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:48 PM

I have no experience with that, specific tablet, but I have owned two 'droid tablets and enjoyed them immensely.

Sonic CD is a blast. I also enjoy playing with Minecraft (although it's still in it's early stages for portables and I had to cheat to get it on there), Gem Miner is a fun game, along with World of Goo, Vanessa, PewPew, Chuzzle, Angry Birds (duh), Tetris and Worms. I also have a nice version of solitaire. If you're into the dark arts of emulation, GENPlusDroid is a good Genesis emulator and John NES is great for NES games. Ooh, and I can't forget Alchemy and Roller. A lot of these are free, or have limited free versions to try out. Mostly the paid versions of any given app just remove adds.

As far as general apps go, I read with Kindle, Kobo and Aldiko. Merriam-Webster has a good dictionary app, and Comic Rack is great for CBR comics. Splastop Remote is great for interacting with your computer from anywhere in your house (and supposedly over the internet) and I mess about with Sketch Free and Sketch Book Mobile. I can recommend Go Launcher Ex as a nice alternate launcher, if you don't like the default.

The key to this is experimentation. Not every tablet is compatible with every app and you really need to find the ones that work best on yours. In addition, since you're using a 'droid tablet, there's a lot that you can do to improve things with a little research and preparation. I don't know what the Transformer tablets are like, but I know some of the backwater 'droids require some coaxing and modifying to get the best results from them.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:12 AM

first, thanks for the info guys =]

and WOW! this thing is AMAZING!...The speed of it blows my mind...the screen is gorgeous and not super insanely sensitive, the touch sensitivity is perfect...and i have no problems with there being only the one speaker, took a few mins to get used to and after that its fine...could use a little bass, but thats just a minor quibble.

i grabbed the micro HDMI cable (mostly because one of my best friends works at radio shack and i get to use her discount hehe) and hooked it up to my TV, and the 1080p output is clean and crisp...and Shadowgun and Angry Birds look awesome on a 42in screen.

Streaming videos from both Netflix and from my PC works beautifully...and i havent had any of the Wi-Fi issues id heard alot of people talking about, so thats good.

I decided to forgo my usual naming conventions...and went with an Autobot name for her instead of a Decepticon one (my netbook is blue and named Soundwave. my Net-top is white and named Megatron, my black seagate external harddrive is Ravage)...since ts curvy, and kinda badass, i have officially dubbed her Chromia.

I cannot help but be so blown away by the dang thing...i feel like im living in Star Trek: TNG...Everyone should have on of these. =]

Edited by Stackups immy, 26 February 2012 - 06:13 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:11 AM

I'm posting from a Prime with a keyboard dock. It's not a complete laptop replacement, but for wireless web browsing on a lightweight device with a combined battery that feels like it runs forever, I can't complain.

Remote desktop software and Slingbox also help fill in the gaps of not being a full desktop device.

I don't have a screen protector though. I just close the dock over the screen whenever I'm not using it.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:51 AM

Haha...story of my life...early Sunday morning i was watching vids on my desktop comp (an Acer Revo Nettop), when i heard the fan die and he dang thing loxcked up...and considering the nettops run on netbook parts, its really hard to replace parts...it is 2.5 years old...but now i gotta figure out some way to save another $400 - $500 to get a new nettop...atleast the new models have bluray drives and the awesome trackpad / virtual keyboard peripheral...sigh

Im even more thankful now for the tablet...without it id be going insane with no net access heh

The keyboard dock is coming in the mail this week...im glad to hear that just folding 'em up is good enough to protect the screen.

Also, anyone know if the tablet itself supports microSDs bigger than 32gb...same for the dock, is it possible to use SDcards bigger thab 32gb?

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:22 AM

If you replace the fan it will probably work.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:29 AM

yeah...the thing is, i cant quite figure out how to open the Revos case...theres one screw and after i took it out...nothing moved or anything...its really weird.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:25 AM

I'm always considering to buy one of these drawing tablets - though knowing my luck they would not be compatible with the hundred-years-old version of Photoshop I am using. But they cost too much to just buy and try them, and I have never seen one on display in a store where I could check whether I'd really be able to draw with them.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:56 AM

Yeah. Since I'm on Linux, I'm always worried about driver issues with them - pressure sensitivity tends to be particularly problematic, even when using an older tablet on a Windows system. The only time I've played with one, I borrowed it from someone for whom the pressure sensitivity had stopped working on his Windows system after an update, and found that the same problem existed on my Linux system. = P But I can say that if you're worried about it being too "abstract", moving the pointer that way, I found that it "clicked" rather quickly for me, and it felt a lot more like drawing on paper than with a mouse. I had to zoom in more than I was entirely comfortable with to have any kind of accuracy, but that might of course have been simply because I was using a small drawing tablet and a small display res.

If you're getting a current Wacom or something mainstream like that and using it on Windows, I can't imagine any driver issues being a hangup, and your Photoshop version shouldn't really matter so long as it has support for brush dynamics through pressure sensitivity at all. I think you'll find it intuitive enough, and to do art like yours, you need pressure sensitivity, so it's better than the option of using a tablet PC, a stylus, and a specialized app for sketching (like Autodesk's Sketchbook Mobile) to make a file that you're going to be taking over to Photoshop anyway.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

Onlive Desktop just got released for Android. Say hello to Windows 7 on your tablet via remote desktop.

https://market.andro....onlive.desktop

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:17 AM

This thing continues to be so awesome and mind-blowingly cool.

The Keyboard dock came in the mail yesterday, so cool! The added functionality of the USB port is definitely a welcome addition...i added a 4-port USB hub with a mouse, and 2 8gb flash drives i had gotten as gifts last year, and it had no problem accessing them and now its making itself a nice home on my desk while charging or not being carried around.

Onlive Desktop sounds like a really cool thingie...i might need that.

Also, thanks Doctor Who for mentioning Comic Rack...that was one program that was TOTALLY worth its meager price tag! I am beyond amazed at how crisp, clear, easy to read, and downright beautiful Comics look on here. Thanks to the screens Super IPS+ display, i was able to sit outside the other day in the bright sun and still pretty much be able to read without any problems.

And after looking into it, The Asus Eee Pad MeMo ME370T, looks to be a pretty badass addition to the 7inch market...and the $249 price tag aint too shabby either...i may start saving up for it just because the tech geek in me is drooling and repeatedly saying "preeeetttyyyy hehehehehe"...and thats one voice in my head i listen to...as opposed to the others who i know not to listen to heh.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:38 AM

Lag makes OnLive's game service kind of iffy since many games require precise aiming, but the Windows Desktop is pretty cool. Sadly, you have to pay a monthly fee if you want most of the good stuff. But it does offer the ability to run the full Windows versions of Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer on a tablet, which is nice.

And yeah, the USB ports are almost as nice as the keyboard itself. The option of mice and USB flash drives is very nice. I got the smaller storage space option on my Transformer and never regretted it. The memory card slots and USB ports give me more potential storage space than I need.

What annoys me is that many cool games going forward (like Sonic 4 Episode 2) are going to need the Tegra 3 chip and my non-Prime Transformer has the Tegra 2. At this point, I should probably just wait for the inevitable Tegra 4 before upgrading though.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:46 AM

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And after looking into it, The Asus Eee Pad MeMo ME370T, looks to be a pretty badass addition to the 7inch market...and the $249 price tag aint too shabby either...i may start saving up for it just because the tech geek in me is drooling and repeatedly saying "preeeetttyyyy hehehehehe"...and thats one voice in my head i listen to...as opposed to the others who i know not to listen to heh.

The price is right, particularly in light of the first MeMo. I wish it hadn't lost the distinctive style of the first MeMo, though. It doesn't look any different from anything from Samsung or Apple or anyone else. Functionality is fine, but Asus has been good at making kit that can't be mistaken for anyone else's, and the new MeMo doesn't have that.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE(Stackups immy @ Mar 1 2012, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, thanks Doctor Who for mentioning Comic Rack...that was one program that was TOTALLY worth its meager price tag! I am beyond amazed at how crisp, clear, easy to read, and downright beautiful Comics look on here. Thanks to the screens Super IPS+ display, i was able to sit outside the other day in the bright sun and still pretty much be able to read without any problems.

You're very welcome!

I found it when I was wanting to re-read the old Tintin comics and found it to be an excellent program. Very flexable, very user-friendly. And, like you say, very inexpensive.

That's got to be one of the things I'm enjoying the most about the app markets. Because it's an open market, there are so many enjoyable games and tools for little to nothing and most have a free limited/trial version to go along with it.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

A sneaky tip: don't pay for the ad-free versions of the Angry Birds games. Get the free ad-based versions and turn off your wifi while playing. You'll save battery power and the ads don't show up if your internet connection is down.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:16 PM

The Asus Transformer Prime seems pretty awesome, from what I have seen on YouTube.

Interesting sidenote though, isn't this the tablet that Hasbro is considering suing Asus over? I seem to remember reading some small article about it.

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"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson




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