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@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.


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#41 HeyMickey

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:11 PM

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But if one's default is to become like unto a furnace during sleep, it's fine, right?

You should wrap yourself in bacon before you go to sleep so you can wake up to breakfast in bed!
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#42 Kalidor

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:34 PM

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I run hot in general... warm to the touch to about minus twenty.

I have a fan on me right now because its hot in my house .. gotta keep it at 15C so the pipes under my floorboards don't freeze, other wise I'd be in here in shorts at 10C



How much is any of that in human degrees?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:37 PM

Pants and shirts in the winter.

Shorts and shirt in the summer.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 21 2012, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I run hot in general... warm to the touch to about minus twenty.

I have a fan on me right now because its hot in my house .. gotta keep it at 15C so the pipes under my floorboards don't freeze, other wise I'd be in here in shorts at 10C



How much is any of that in human degrees?


15C and 10C. Catch up with the rest of planet, please? Its... sweater or jacket weather outside temperature. Not cold enough to bitch about, but cold enough to take measures.

Edit: 50-60 farenheit, for the record.

Edited by Pennpenn, 21 February 2012 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:59 PM

I pass out in the clothes I wore that day

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#46 ExVee

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:09 AM

50-60 is jacket weather? PLEASE. I walk around comfortably outside in a t-shirt in 40 degree weather.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:13 AM

for reference it hits 25?C at night here lately and even having boxers on is too much for that heat

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:14 AM

Do Australian homes not come with air conditioning?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:15 AM

oh I have air con on and a fan but its still friggin hot

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:19 AM

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Do Australian homes not come with air conditioning?

Depends on when it was built, but in many cases I've seen people tend towards insulation rather than aircon.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:25 AM

I don't have sleep-specific clothing. I take off my shoes then go to bed.

I shower/change when I wake up in the AM.



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(ExVee @ Feb 22 2012, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do Australian homes not come with air conditioning?

Depends on when it was built, but in many cases I've seen people tend towards insulation rather than aircon.





Unless its Peter Garrett insulation...then you just die in a house fire.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:33 AM

Air conditioners in Australia come with a free poisonous snake.

I think that's the deal with everything. Buy something ... comes with a real live poison bearing animal.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I run hot in general... warm to the touch to about minus twenty.

I have a fan on me right now because its hot in my house .. gotta keep it at 15C so the pipes under my floorboards don't freeze, other wise I'd be in here in shorts at 10C

I'm glad I'm not the only one who suffers this ailment.

It's been an ongoing problem for me that I just feel warmer than most people, leading me into many air-conditioning battles with my mother, until we finally got a smaller unit installed in my bedroom window. Sleep with a fan on all year long and generally can't sleep without it.

Although there is some debate about if that has more to do with the noise or the air. At last check, it was a little of both.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE(The Jawa Muse @ Feb 22 2012, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Air conditioners in Australia come with a free poisonous snake.

I think that's the deal with everything. Buy something ... comes with a real live poison bearing animal.





don't forget the free box of spiders for the first 100 customers

#56 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:39 AM

It's currently like in the 30C range up here, we try not to use our air conditioning up here to avoid the bills.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:59 AM

yeah it just hit 0.. or 32F

I've been fine in jeans at 0 F
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:39 AM

I live in south TX about a mile from the beach heat/humidaty is our climate here
We saw snow...once about 4 years ago

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE(Solarstorm @ Feb 21 2012, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have sleep-specific clothing. I take off my shoes then go to bed.

I shower/change when I wake up in the AM.


icon-depth.gif Wouldn't your sheets end up pretty grubby from sleeping in your day clothes, though?

Heck, I've gotten into the habit of showering about an hour before bed to A) save time in the morning, and B) keep my sheets cleaner longer so I don't have to change them quite as often.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE(Goblez @ Feb 22 2012, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Jawa Muse @ Feb 22 2012, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Air conditioners in Australia come with a free poisonous snake.

I think that's the deal with everything. Buy something ... comes with a real live poison bearing animal.





don't forget the free box of spiders for the first 100 customers


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