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@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:05 AM

Because:
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Flobsters on Parade (March 3)
Chase, Blades and Boulder must battle a swarm of flying lobsters.

BeesLobsters. My God.

Also:
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The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock (March 10)
Huxley Prescott causes panic when he reports that aliens have invaded Griffin Rock.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:48 AM

http://www.allspark....hp?showforum=76

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:54 AM


I can't tell you how happy it makes me that the wiki will soon have a "Flobsters" page.

I expect a Sci-Fi Channel movie in short order.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 16 2012, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, really a bit disappointed Toy Fair didn't show any new Rescue Bot robot toys.


It's perhaps not all that exciting, but we did see a TV show accurate Cody Burns and a new Optimus Prime that come with the transforming rolling headquarters.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:07 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 16 2012, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't tell you how happy it makes me that the wiki will soon have a "Flobsters" page.

Delicious.

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I expect a Sci-Fi Channel movie in short order.

I think you meany "Syfy".

And having spent a LOT of time watching Mega Piranha... I can see this way, way too easily.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:27 AM

Stupidest question I've asked myself recently: "Is that Syfy Original Movie DVD worth ten bucks?" (It was Metal Shifters, FWIW.) icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 12:53 PM

Me thinks the alien invasion will turn out to be fake.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 01:18 PM

But...Aliens have already invaded the town. How can it be fake?

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 01:49 PM

Yeah, the alien invasion one will be tricky to pull off without turning someone into a "strawman skeptic", the guy who's made to look like an idiot because he refuses to accept that X is real when X is standing right behind him.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:40 PM

I hope somewhere they put in a character resembling Orson Welles. I mean, they already have Maurice LaMarche...

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

There better be a Gimlet reference in "Flobsters on Parade" !

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 16 2012, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But...Aliens have already invaded the town. How can it be fake?

icon-fire.gif

You know that cliche when bad guys stage a fake alien invasion for sake of pulling out some scam. Or simply put, a Scooby Doo style scam.

Edited by D.M, 16 February 2012 - 08:22 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:18 PM

TV Guide has an alternate description for Flobsters on Parade: http://www.tvguide.c...season-1/337860
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Flying lobsters invade a summer festival, and an angry Heatwave refuses to help fight them.

Man, what's got Heatwave riled? Given a choice between fighting flying lobsters and fighting Unicron, give me the flying lobsters any day.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE(abates @ Feb 18 2012, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TV Guide has an alternate description for Flobsters on Parade: http://www.tvguide.c...season-1/337860
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Flying lobsters invade a summer festival, and an angry Heatwave refuses to help fight them.

Man, what's got Heatwave riled? Given a choice between fighting flying lobsters and fighting Unicron, give me the flying lobsters any day.

Clearly you've never had to deal with Flobsters.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:52 PM

March 17 is "Cody on Patrol". No description yet though:
http://tv.msn.com/tv...cody-on-patrol/

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

There does not appear to be a new episode on the weekend after Cody on Patrol. They're repeating Family of Heroes in the usual spot.

Cody on Patrol description: Cody accidentally unleashes a swarm of futuristic nanites while he's trying to super-charge his go-kart to help in the team's rescue missions.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:08 PM

So it turns out the next episode is nearly a month away:
http://tv.msn.com/tv...ots-and-a-baby/
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:15 PM

Strange that I just saw an ad saying the it's all new next Saturday.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE(abates @ Mar 10 2012, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cody on Patrol description: Cody accidentally unleashes a swarm of futuristic nanites while he's trying to super-charge his go-kart to help in the team's rescue missions.

Cody on Patrol description: Cody is Sari.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

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Cody is Sari.

As well he should be.
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