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@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.


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What If: G1 had Fems from day 1


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#1 Vestras

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

So while on a TFwiki binge, I cam across an sandbox on Gender in TF's that got some wheels in my head turning.

What if Hasbro had actually decided to make some of the original G1 figures female from the get go? Back in the 80's Boys lines had no females typically (Scarlet, Lady Jane, and Cheetara being the only ones I recall off the top of my head), so what if suddenly Hasbro had decided to shake that trend and G1 had more female characters in it as their competitor Gobots did (Crasher and Smallfoot being main cast members as well as many supporting fems).

Would molds with prominent... chests (Jazz, Prowl, Shockwave) have been good candidates, or would Tracks have been a fem all along perhaps. Would we have seen versions of Roadrage and Discharge in the casts perhaps?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

Ratchet would have been the girl.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

Shockwave...as a female. Man. The Shipping man. The Shipping.

And then. ALL ARE DEAD.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

It would be my guess that female characters would still have been limited to the Minibots only. Just because it would be easier to "get away" with doing something like that as long as it's one of the cheapest toys in the line.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 15 2012, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ratchet would have been the girl.



Yep.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:53 PM

a PARTY girl.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:22 PM

So we went from Nurse Ratchet to Cool Hand Lube to Grumpy Doc?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

He's got gender issues.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Kil @ Feb 15 2012, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 15 2012, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ratchet would have been the girl.



Yep.


Wow. I had somehow missed this revelation. THAT would have been a pretty interesting character,

Sooo... And I don't know if I really wanna ask this... But has anyone tried to imagine/sketch how a Deryized female version of the a Ratchet toy would have looked?


-ZacWilliam, makes me wonder if there was ever a planed Con counterpart. Usually you got one girl on each side in the 80s...

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#10 NICK TYRANNO

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:38 PM

She probably would have been a jet, regardless.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Feb 15 2012, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She probably would have been a jet, regardless.


Starscream as female would have made an interesting dynamic...

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:03 PM

I would have liked getting Glyph.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE(Kil @ Feb 15 2012, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 15 2012, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ratchet would have been the girl.



Yep.

Crazy. I thought it was going to be a link to TFA Red Alert being female and then getting replaced with Ratchet, but this is even more revelatory.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:41 PM

Ehh, given how G1 was, they would have probably spend most of their time being saved by the guys. Not to mention all the cringe-worthy jokes around 'those crazy women lol'.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:51 PM

What about Micromasters some of thim could easly pass a female
Im really shocked that theres not a single female in the entire US G1 toy run
Even He-Man had at least 3

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Vestras @ Feb 15 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would molds with prominent... chests (Jazz, Prowl, Shockwave) have been good candidates, or would Tracks have been a fem all along perhaps. Would we have seen versions of Roadrage and Discharge in the casts perhaps?

Thoughts, comments?


Why do people seem to think Tracks was gay? I never saw that. He sounds like Mr. Howell from Gilligan's Island, but that's it.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:54 PM

Wow its 1990s ATT all over again icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 06:09 PM

its just 'a thing' the fans older than me came up with...

WAY WAY back when Generation 2 first became 'G2' and retroactively created the fanterm "G1"

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:13 PM

See, for me (no comics, ignoring the toy bios, going only by the cartoon), G1 always had femmes. G1 was over by the time I realized that Swoop (with the chest, narrow waist, long legs, ponytail, and high-pitched voice) and Wheelie (with the high-pitched voice, childbearing hips, and tomboyish "baseball cap") were supposed to be guys.

And no, it never seemed the least bit noteworthy to me that there was a girl among the Dinobots. I understood that girls are more than capable of Smashing Stuff when they want to (hell, one of my grade-school bullies was a girl, and she left as many bruises and bloody noses as the guys).

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

I wish people wouldn't use words like Fems and Femmes. Dunno why, but it makes me uncomfortable.

Also Soundwave would totally have been female.

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