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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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#1 Octavius Prime

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:44 PM

HTS

They've got the wave 1 Prime deluxes and voyagers. Also deluxe Arcee and Ratchet, but both of them and Soundwave are sold out. Also, the available ones are preorders, but it says they ship in 7 to 9 days (pretty close to the "street date").

Edited by Octavius Prime, 15 February 2012 - 07:38 AM.


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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:01 PM

Ooo nice. I have already been checking most days. Arcee and Ratchet are wave 2 so probably a pre-stock rather than sold out.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Feb 14 2012, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ooo nice. I have already been checking most days. Arcee and Ratchet are wave 2 so probably a pre-stock rather than sold out.


They were in stock this afternoon. In the time it took me to put Ratchet in my cart and get to the shipping screen he sold out. Arcee lasted a couple hours longer.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:34 PM

blargh!

I still have a groupon to use with HTS. Want 2x or more Ratchets (customs) + 1 Arcee.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:48 PM

I was able to snag an Arcee and a Ratchet, but I'm a rampant refresher. Ratchet sold out FAST.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:18 PM

I guess that's a good sign for them being in stores soon?

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:38 PM

Argh! Just when I don't have a card!

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:44 AM

Hmm, no free shipping though. Even with groupon (which was $15 for a $30 credit) it'll come out close to store prices. But still, nice to have peace of mind in these uncertain times.
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#9 Octavius Prime

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:41 AM

Dammit, I was really considering ordering WJ and Megatron. I would have definitely gotten WJ and Soundwave had I found this in time. But I didn't order last night, and guess what - now you can only get Optimus and BB! Pretty much just like at the hugging store.

Dammit, Hasbro. You are hugging things up left and right.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:44 AM

It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:31 AM

Megatron's in stock as I type this.
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#12 Octavius Prime

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:03 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2012, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.



So, to easily get the TFs I want, I always have to be ready to purchase right then? I guess this is more of a cases assortment complaint. More Wheeljacks and Soundwaves in a case when mean more available.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:08 PM

Arcee was apparently available at some point too.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 15 2012, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Arcee was apparently available at some point too.

Randy


She was available slightly longer than Ratchet was yesterday but I couldn't bring myself to buy just her.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 15 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2012, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.



So, to easily get the TFs I want, I always have to be ready to purchase right then? I guess this is more of a cases assortment complaint. More Wheeljacks and Soundwaves in a case when mean more available.


If I'm in a store and I see new Transformers, and I pass on them, and I come back in the morning and somebody else bought them first... I don't think that's Hasbro's fault. Pretty sure that's on me.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 15 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2012, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.



So, to easily get the TFs I want, I always have to be ready to purchase right then? I guess this is more of a cases assortment complaint. More Wheeljacks and Soundwaves in a case when mean more available.


That's an entirely different argument. The way Hasbro's online store has always worked is you usually have to grab the new stuff when you see it, as it does move fast. I missed out on this stuff too, I expected the usual Wednesday appearance, but I'm not going to set up a scapegoat and start crying on an online forum cause of my screw up.

Edited by Monocle, 15 February 2012 - 01:59 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:01 PM

QUOTE(Monocle @ Feb 15 2012, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 15 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2012, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.



So, to easily get the TFs I want, I always have to be ready to purchase right then? I guess this is more of a cases assortment complaint. More Wheeljacks and Soundwaves in a case when mean more available.


That's an entirely different argument. The way Hasbro's online store has always worked is you usually have to grab the new stuff when you see it, as it does move fast. I missed out on this stuff too, I expected the usual Wednesday appearance, but I'm not going to set up a scapegoat and start crying on an online forum cause of my screw up.

Besides, it's not like this jive will be EVERYWHERE in a few months and we'll all be hearing about the same "shelfwarming Ratchets" and all that.

But yeah, if you HAVE to have it NOW, be prepared to pay. Otherwise, wait a few weeks for EVERY BIG BOX RETAILER to start getting these toys out.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Steevy Maximus @ Feb 15 2012, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Monocle @ Feb 15 2012, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 15 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 15 2012, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure is their fault you didn't order them last night.



So, to easily get the TFs I want, I always have to be ready to purchase right then? I guess this is more of a cases assortment complaint. More Wheeljacks and Soundwaves in a case when mean more available.


That's an entirely different argument. The way Hasbro's online store has always worked is you usually have to grab the new stuff when you see it, as it does move fast. I missed out on this stuff too, I expected the usual Wednesday appearance, but I'm not going to set up a scapegoat and start crying on an online forum cause of my screw up.

Besides, it's not like this jive will be EVERYWHERE in a few months and we'll all be hearing about the same "shelfwarming Ratchets" and all that.

But yeah, if you HAVE to have it NOW, be prepared to pay. Otherwise, wait a few weeks for EVERY BIG BOX RETAILER to start getting these toys out.


Indeed. I passe don picking the wave 1 guys up lats Saturday when they were right in front of me because they were at the Times Square TRU. That's the TRU that loves to have the higher prices, mostly likely so they can gouge the tourist shoppers. This is the first wave of a new line, released at the start of the year, the stuff is going to be everywhere in a month or two.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:54 PM

damn. that was fast.

Doesnt matter anyways, my father is going to Tokyo and im asking him to (try) and pick up a Takara FE Bulkhead and Optimus.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:02 PM

Man I wish walmart.com would start stocking any new TFs anymore, they really haven't done anything good in a while.
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