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@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.


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#121 Alpha Omega Trion Supreme

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:00 AM

Are most people seeing him arrive before the shipping email does?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 24 2012, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got mine in today! Runabout is awesome. Drift is pretty neat. Though my Drift has two of the same gun (and a nasty crack looking defect in his window).

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:14 AM

QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Feb 25 2012, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are most people seeing him arrive before the shipping email does?
In my case, it was pretty textbook. Shipping e-mail the first week they were shipping, figures arrived on time.


#124 Echowarrior

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Feb 25 2012, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Feb 25 2012, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are most people seeing him arrive before the shipping email does?
In my case, it was pretty textbook. Shipping e-mail the first week they were shipping, figures arrived on time.


As previously noted, I received no shipping notification, but still got my toy. So I guess it's hit and miss.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:08 PM

Mine just arrived, got the "guns" issue on Drift. I'll just bring it at Botcon for a trade, not getting flustered about it.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

You should tape them to your chin and walk around shooting people while you talk.
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#127 Walky

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:13 PM

Got my Drift, Runabout, and shirt from the post office today. I have the proper set of Drift blasters.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:25 PM

I'm just trading one of mine with another board member, I suggest others do the same. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:40 PM

Just got Runabout & the Run's shirt. Just to clarify, is only Runabout shipping, or is Runamuck shipping as well? I thought I read that both figures were ready. Also, my Run shirt is blue, is that what everyone else is recieving? It looks great, but I was expecting a grey colored shirt.

Also, I too didn't recieve a shipping notice, I was quite surprised when some random man came up to my door, thought it was an angry neighbor or something icon-fire.gif

#130 ShinRa Inc

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:23 PM

Runamuck isn't shipping until after the membership cutoff next month

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:22 PM

Yeah, I think they have Runamuck in their stock, but they have to do it after the membership deadline for it to work out in terms of shipping costs.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:07 AM

I got my Runabout and Drift today. I was glad to see that Drift had a left and right gun and there were no other problems with either one. Both are really nice figures. Can't wait until Runamuck joins them.

I got my shipping info when the figures were about halfway to me.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:20 PM

So...who happened to get two right-handed guns with their Drift? I have two left-handed ones, maybe we can work out a swap icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:27 PM

I would swap with you but I'm already swapping with Monzo, well that and I too have two left handed ones. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 1 2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would swap with you but I'm already swapping with Monzo, well that and I too have two left handed ones. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE(AireCoos @ Mar 1 2012, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So...who happened to get two right-handed guns with their Drift? I have two left-handed ones, maybe we can work out a swap icon-hotrod.gif

I got two right-handed ones. I'm down for making a swap.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:20 PM

Since this is the thread where we are discussing the Drift Duplicate Gun and subsequent swapping topic, perhaps someone could change the name of the thread so people actually know to look here instead of making new threads.

Just sayin'.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Mar 1 2012, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 1 2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would swap with you but I'm already swapping with Monzo, well that and I too have two left handed ones. icon-fire.gif

And the most useless post of the year goes to...

Who?! Don't leave me in suspense! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 1 2012, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Mar 1 2012, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 1 2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would swap with you but I'm already swapping with Monzo, well that and I too have two left handed ones. icon-fire.gif

And the most useless post of the year goes to...

Who?! Don't leave me in suspense! icon-fire.gif

Randy


Randy, I'm sending you a left footed shoe as your prize icon-ironhide.gif

SoS, please PM me when you get the chance if you really want to swap. I appreciate the response.


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