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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just


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Hasbro's facebook page has FOC Bruticus colored in G-2 colors,Why isn't hasbro using the game informer FOC Bruticus colors


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:56 PM

The horror,Hasbro's facebook page has FOC Bruticus colored in G-2 colors,I want the game informer colors not neon G-2 colors. Hasbro what are you doing? WHY the hideous G-2 neon colors?
http://www.facebook.....type=1

I want the the Game stop store magazine Game informer colors,that were non-neom/Non-G-2 Colored:
http://i75.photobuck..._scaled_800.jpg

Can someone please email hasbro & ask them which FOC Bruticus colors their using. the Game informer magazine colors of the toyfair facebook neon G-2 colors.

Can we all form a petition & ask hasbro to use the game stop game informer magazine FOC Bruticus/combaticons colors instead.

Is their someone or a crew at Hasbro on a deliberate mission to Ruin Transformers toys by slapping ugly color schemes on them?

do the hasbro crew think the second colors will be more appealing to younger kids?

are these second colors being done deliberately to force fans to buy the Takara versions?

Are these second colors being done on purpose to release the awful colors first? then later on release the molds in better colors,to make fans pay for the molds over & over again?

Either way,I loved the Game informer magazine colors the best. as they looked great on the mold & MORE IMPORTANTLY MADE THE MOLD LOOK MORE GROWN UP & geared for a older teenager/fans buying audience.

I was hoping when I saw FOC Bruticus in those ugly colors at Hasbro's nyc toyfair this saturday. that these were the rusehed un-finished test shot colors & not the final colors.

GEE GADS,Those recent hasbro facebook FOC Bruticus colors are pure awful. the neon colors are blinding & look horrid/aful/toddler on those molds.

the neon yellow swindle looks leaps & bounds worse than the mustard yellow dull colored swindle. Neon Brawl looks like lime green jello colored. Vortex thatv red looks bad & that purple neon colored copter blade makes the mold look like garbage as it doesn't blend it with the other colors. that neon colored purple blast off has un-realitic shuttle colors & looks worse than the game informer gold colors,at the very least the gold colors had age & looked cool. the more neon blue+neon green+neon yellow high lights all over onslaught just looks like throw up & pure awful. the neon yellow should upward bladed on bruticus look horrible & no where as great/cool/awesome as the first colors grey shoulder upward things from the game informer magazine.

The Hasbro facebook bruticus combiner parts & weapons looks awful/horrible/puke compared to the awesome Game stop magaine game informer combiner parts & weapons. Purple neon bruticus fist are ulgy & blinding. the mix matched neon colored tiny weapons that combine to form the huge bruticus hand weapon look so miix matched & don't blend into to one another well enough to form a convincing looking big weapon. The game stop magazine game informer combiner parts & weapons look much more adult/mature/bland/normal/non-toddler looking & more awesome.

In closing: if hasbro colors this FOC Bruticus in these ugly neon colors,then I simply won't buy it. I might buy the takara non-neon colors instead. I have a feeling Takara will color FOC Bruticus in G-1 1985 Combaticons/bruticus colors. the takara colors will probably look better than the game informer magazine colors & the horrid/awful recent hasbro facebook G-2/Neon Colors

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:59 PM

The "in closing" is my favorite part.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:00 PM

(hi, deathy)

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

The neon colors are a test sample. based on everything (at least that I have read) from Toyfair. Bruticus's final colors will be closer to his in game informer colors.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:04 PM

I was told personally by Josh Jivoin the colors were going to be close to what you see in the game.

That does not make me think that the alternate one they showed at Toy Fair isn't also going to see some kind of release, as they had stock photos for that version in their presentation.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 13 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was told personally by Josh Jivoin the colors were going to be close to what you see in the game.

That does not make me think that the alternate one they showed at Toy Fair isn't also going to see some kind of release, as they had stock photos for that version in their presentation.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

Man, I can live with that Swindle in either color scheme. He's nice.

Then again, I'm a sucker for Swindles.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Feb 13 2012, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then again, I'm a sucker for Swindles.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

Actually, these colors are more like Energon colors.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 13 2012, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 13 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was told personally by Josh Jivoin the colors were going to be close to what you see in the game.

That does not make me think that the alternate one they showed at Toy Fair isn't also going to see some kind of release, as they had stock photos for that version in their presentation.

Randy


Jerry Jivoin.

Well I know him better by his nickname of J-Wow Jivoin.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:11 PM


I didn't read the whole rambling thing. But I am amused by folks pulling G2 out when it's much, much closer to Energon Bruticus Maximus. Heh.

My feeling is it's a cool toy in either set of colors.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 13 2012, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 13 2012, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 13 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was told personally by Josh Jivoin the colors were going to be close to what you see in the game.

That does not make me think that the alternate one they showed at Toy Fair isn't also going to see some kind of release, as they had stock photos for that version in their presentation.

Randy


Jerry Jivoin.

Well I know him better by his nickname of J-Wow Jivoin.


Is that why you called him "Kerry" in your tweets?


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

How many times is this set of Combaticons gonna get recolored? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:20 PM

Tradition demands at least 5 times.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:22 PM

G1
G2
Ruination
Universe.....dang missing one..

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 13 2012, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
G1
G2
Ruination
Universe.....dang missing one..
The urban camo one.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

Battle Gaia, Baldigus...

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Feb 13 2012, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(tec @ Feb 13 2012, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
G1
G2
Ruination
Universe.....dang missing one..
The urban camo one.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:29 PM

Ahhhh...the comforting sound of someone calling bright colors NEON, whether they are or not. Good times! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:32 PM

Man, that grey is so NEON.




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