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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.


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Which continuation of Marvel G1 is the most definitive?


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Which continuation of Marvel G1 is the most definitive?

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#1 Starfield

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

I know the are all "official," but which series, Generation 2, Classics, or Regeneration One is the continuation of the G1 comics?

Regeneration One is staking a claim by having the issues numbered in sequence, starting with #80.5 and going to #100.

Generation 2 deliberately sets itself apart. It is a different franchise. It deliberately sets a new style and tone. Criminy, the first issue boldly declares "this is not your father's Autobot" on the cover, so I think it is undermines its own claim to be the definitive continuation. On the other hand, it is in indirect continuity through G.I. Joe. Or at least the Joe issues starring Transformers are.

I don't know enough about Classics fiction to comment.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:40 PM

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#3 Walky

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

I am going to say Recordicons.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

The Big Looker books, obviously.

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#6 Detour

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:52 PM

Eugenesis.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

Generation 2. I don't see how this is even a question.

It had Geoff Senior working on it.

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(Until Regneration One has Geoff Senior, it can go suck it.)

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

Note to self: Get Geoff Senior to draw Recordicons.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:40 PM

G2 is the actual Marvel continuation of G1. Therefore that's what I vote for.

Edited by Draven, 09 February 2012 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:56 PM

G2

RG1






































"Classicsverse".


In roughly that order icon-arcee.gif

[And "G2" is therefore your answer, for the same reason Draven gave. RG1 only gets *any* sort of a look in because the same guys are working on it - but since Furman also wrote G2, even that's not any sort of trump card. The Clubverse pretending Marvel UK doesn't exist, OTOH, is a COUNTER-trump card.]

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:55 AM

I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.

If this topic were made after Regeneration One #100 has been released, we'll probably see a change in opinion.

To me, "definitive" doesn't mean 'first' but 'best'. Even though G2 came first, I doubt it will be able hold up against Regeneration One in quality.

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#12 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 9 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.

If this topic were made after Regeneration One #100 has been released, we'll probably see a change in opinion.

To me, "definitive" doesn't mean 'first' but 'best'. Even though G2 came first, I doubt it will be able hold up against Regeneration One in quality.

Time will tell on this, of course, but this is largely my opinion, as well. I can't vote for Regeneration One yet, as I don't know if it will be any good (I have high hopes, of course). Classics was an enjoyable romp, but frankly there just isn't that much there for me to support it. (6 pages every two months just isn't very much, sorry) That pretty much leaves G2.

#13 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:28 AM

That Japanese comic thing they hired the Americans to do.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:02 AM

Beast Wars.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:17 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.


Yes, I was wanting Regeneration One to take place after G2 #12, between G1 #80 and G2 #1 or during G2 (same way the U.K. comics happened during the U.S. comics).

But I kept being told that G2 was bad, that nobody should care about it and that Regeneration One would be limited if it incorporated G2 because of all the pointless deaths.

All things I disagreed with. G2 is part of the Marvel continuity too and Furman could still write a good story while acknowledging G2. But it became an alternate timeline from the end of #80. Classicsverse already ignored G2. If the hype for Regeneration One is real and Furman can pull off the stories he has been talking about and hinting at, its going to be great.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:40 AM

I'll vote after the end of Regeneration One. icon-op.gif

Edited by D.M, 10 February 2012 - 08:40 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:10 AM

The Rebirth.

Oh, wait...

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.
But there ARE reasons. You may disagree with them, but the widespread destruction on Earth, the loss of several characters, and the whole now-acknowleged existence of the Cybertronian Empire are all game-changers that Simon Furman thought it best to turn back the clock on.

They're pretty significant reasons, you're desire to include them in the new story notwithstanding.

#20 Chris McFeely

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Feb 10 2012, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.
But there ARE reasons. You may disagree with them, but the widespread destruction on Earth, the loss of several characters, and the whole now-acknowleged existence of the Cybertronian Empire are all game-changers that Simon Furman thought it best to turn back the clock on.

They're pretty significant reasons, you're desire to include them in the new story notwithstanding.


Well gee, maybe he could have tried to TELL a story with a significantly changed game by USING those new elements, instead of wiping them out! I mean, are you seriously telling me that the idea of the Autobots and Decepticons at peace, working with humanity to rebuild, with the thread of a... third faction... hanging over their heads...

...jive. I'm describing Energon, aren't I? Withdrawn.

Edited by Chris McFeely, 10 February 2012 - 11:42 AM.




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