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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:39 PM

So I was at TRU earlier this week and the Prime toys on hand so far were Bot Shots and Cyberverse Legion. The wife vetoed Legions for me (something about just spending $100 dollars on FP Runamuck and Runabout... Sheesh icon-arcee.gif ) but I grabbed two of the Bot Shots (Baricade and Sentinel) for my nephew who turned 9 today. They were pretty neat little gadgets, and though he seemed slightly unsure what they were at first I think he liked them once I explained the game and we tried smashing them together a few times.

However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

So I was just wondering how they've been working out for anyone else whose grabbed some? Are all the spring gimicks this iffy or do they mostly work fine?


-ZacWilliam, even with the twitchy gimick I kinda like the little guys. Fighting the urge to get into buying them. They're so small and collectible they make my Pavlov-sense tingle. So many TFs to collect already. Well, maybe just Jet/Skyfire when and if he comes out...

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#2 gargunkle

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:32 PM

They're kind of like Bakugan mixed with Transformers right? I kind of want to check them out but $5 seems a little excessive for such a small thing (granted I know that's the Bakugan price).
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:36 PM

On mine, Prime and Starscream are on hair triggers, while Bumblebee and Barricade require a pretty strong impact to transform. I suppose it's a good strategy to know about when you play, since you automatically lose if your 'bot doesn't transform.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:03 AM

Yeah getting them to transform sometimes can be iffy, other times you look slightly in their direction and they go off.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:37 PM

My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:54 AM

My Sentinel just doesn't want to pop at all. His feet just don't work worth a damn. Pity, he's such a cute little bugger.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:09 AM

My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

Too bad about the high failure rate.

I'm passing on these.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(D Buster Prime @ Feb 9 2012, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!


i have the opposite problem. Barricade works great, and only requires the slightest graze on the bumper to pop open. Optimus, though, requires good force to pop open, and when he does, he never stands up correctly - he always falls backwards.

even still, these are too cute and are a lot of fun to have on your desk. tiny crack, indeed!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 12 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.


They're only at TRU yet here in Ct. Though I've seen reports of folks finding them at Target.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 8 2012, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode


The exact same goes for my OP and Starscream. It sometimes takes a bit of doing to lock the feet in for mine. I don't own a Bot Shots BB yet, but something tells me I will soon. These guys are cute. Hoping for a Thundercracker eventually.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

The only one I've had experience with was a Barricade. And I had zero problems with transformation. Either way.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

I just bought a Sentinel and, once I learned to not touch the bumper trigger, he works fine.



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

The only issue I've had with any of them is Prime tends to like to fall on his back after popping into robot mode.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

I picked up two over the weekend (Sentinel and Barricade). Haven't really checked them out yet, but I noticed that Barricade's packaging bubble was coming right off the card - even though I got it straight from the case (they weren't on the pegs yet, a Target employee helped me). This reminds me of (I think it was) RotF Scouts.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

Hmm, so they kinda are defective? And my Runamuck and Runabout works fine every time even after 26 years... [Insert Beavis and Butt-Head joke about imitations being lame here]

I might consider picking up some just to kitbash - but knowing they'll cost about 15$ in stores in Europe, I will probably grab them from the flea market rather.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

I have to say I've encountered far more malfunctioning Battlechargers than I have ones that work perfectly.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:22 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 7 2012, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

I have Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime. My experience with Sentinel Prime is more or less the same as yours. Generally, I just need to not be shy about ramming the toys into each other, has been my feeling about it. A partial or soft hit tends to yield an incomplete transformation.

I also find the "hair trigger" thing to be true, but it really doesn't bother me much.

That said, I find these things incredibly addictive. I enjoy ramming the Primes into each other and watching them transform over and over again. I hope that these do well for Hasbro.


(Unrelated note: If you click on the link for Optimus above, you'll note that I think they got their "this beats that" scenario exactly reversed. Anyone else have this impression?)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:29 AM

The effectiveness of the trigger can be adjusted with the screws on the robot's chest. Loosen them for a touchier trigger, tighten for a harder trigger. I've got my prime and starscream working like champs now.
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