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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:39 PM

So I was at TRU earlier this week and the Prime toys on hand so far were Bot Shots and Cyberverse Legion. The wife vetoed Legions for me (something about just spending $100 dollars on FP Runamuck and Runabout... Sheesh icon-arcee.gif ) but I grabbed two of the Bot Shots (Baricade and Sentinel) for my nephew who turned 9 today. They were pretty neat little gadgets, and though he seemed slightly unsure what they were at first I think he liked them once I explained the game and we tried smashing them together a few times.

However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

So I was just wondering how they've been working out for anyone else whose grabbed some? Are all the spring gimicks this iffy or do they mostly work fine?


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:32 PM

They're kind of like Bakugan mixed with Transformers right? I kind of want to check them out but $5 seems a little excessive for such a small thing (granted I know that's the Bakugan price).
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:36 PM

On mine, Prime and Starscream are on hair triggers, while Bumblebee and Barricade require a pretty strong impact to transform. I suppose it's a good strategy to know about when you play, since you automatically lose if your 'bot doesn't transform.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:03 AM

Yeah getting them to transform sometimes can be iffy, other times you look slightly in their direction and they go off.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:37 PM

My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:54 AM

My Sentinel just doesn't want to pop at all. His feet just don't work worth a damn. Pity, he's such a cute little bugger.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:09 AM

My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

Too bad about the high failure rate.

I'm passing on these.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(D Buster Prime @ Feb 9 2012, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!


i have the opposite problem. Barricade works great, and only requires the slightest graze on the bumper to pop open. Optimus, though, requires good force to pop open, and when he does, he never stands up correctly - he always falls backwards.

even still, these are too cute and are a lot of fun to have on your desk. tiny crack, indeed!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 12 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.


They're only at TRU yet here in Ct. Though I've seen reports of folks finding them at Target.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 8 2012, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode


The exact same goes for my OP and Starscream. It sometimes takes a bit of doing to lock the feet in for mine. I don't own a Bot Shots BB yet, but something tells me I will soon. These guys are cute. Hoping for a Thundercracker eventually.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

The only one I've had experience with was a Barricade. And I had zero problems with transformation. Either way.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

I just bought a Sentinel and, once I learned to not touch the bumper trigger, he works fine.



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

The only issue I've had with any of them is Prime tends to like to fall on his back after popping into robot mode.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

I picked up two over the weekend (Sentinel and Barricade). Haven't really checked them out yet, but I noticed that Barricade's packaging bubble was coming right off the card - even though I got it straight from the case (they weren't on the pegs yet, a Target employee helped me). This reminds me of (I think it was) RotF Scouts.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

Hmm, so they kinda are defective? And my Runamuck and Runabout works fine every time even after 26 years... [Insert Beavis and Butt-Head joke about imitations being lame here]

I might consider picking up some just to kitbash - but knowing they'll cost about 15$ in stores in Europe, I will probably grab them from the flea market rather.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

I have to say I've encountered far more malfunctioning Battlechargers than I have ones that work perfectly.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:22 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 7 2012, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

I have Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime. My experience with Sentinel Prime is more or less the same as yours. Generally, I just need to not be shy about ramming the toys into each other, has been my feeling about it. A partial or soft hit tends to yield an incomplete transformation.

I also find the "hair trigger" thing to be true, but it really doesn't bother me much.

That said, I find these things incredibly addictive. I enjoy ramming the Primes into each other and watching them transform over and over again. I hope that these do well for Hasbro.


(Unrelated note: If you click on the link for Optimus above, you'll note that I think they got their "this beats that" scenario exactly reversed. Anyone else have this impression?)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:29 AM

The effectiveness of the trigger can be adjusted with the screws on the robot's chest. Loosen them for a touchier trigger, tighten for a harder trigger. I've got my prime and starscream working like champs now.
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