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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.


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#21 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 7 2012, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dammit, don't link to Cure Aqua merchandise if it's out of stock! That's just mean!

Well, it's in stock over here.

Anyway, will Ginrai be sold at Wonderfest as well, or some time after that?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


#22 Powered Convoy

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:26 AM

They're just going to have the prototype on display and a full colored version of Minerva.

I don't know when preorders will open for them, but they haven't yet. Maybe after Wonderfest if their prices and release dates are announced.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

Do want please. icon-silverbolt.gif
Codename: Ginrai
Code No.: C-307
Level: 76
Origin: U.S.A.

Profile: A gentle intellectual, he is usually a quiet commander, but when the Destrons start attacking, he becomes a warrior whose bravery is second to none. Well versed in various martial arts, he is willing to lay down his life to defend against destruction and invasion.

Trust me....it's better to have a well defined collection over a vast one.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

http://www.allspark....t/view/9973/20/

Hi-Q head! He seems to be in a bad mood though...

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:49 AM

The link on the news just redirects to itself.

#26 Meister79

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 12 2012, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The link on the news just redirects to itself.


Added pics.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:53 AM

Not clear, is the Hi-Q head coming with a separate release or are they throwing it in for free with Ginrai?

Quig Muzzle is interesting. Not sure I need that, but not sure I don't.

Edited by Axaday, 12 February 2012 - 09:57 AM.


#28 NightViper

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:55 AM

Muzzle. Quig was Siren's buddy.

Edited by NightViper, 12 February 2012 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE(Axaday @ Feb 12 2012, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not clear, is the Hi-Q head coming with a separate release or are they throwing it in for free with Ginrai?

Quig is interesting. Not sure I need that, but not sure I don't.


Yeah, still unclear about that. There seems to be photos highlighting the Hi-Q head on the poster about the Nightbeat-colored Minerva.
It is unsure whether the head will come with Ginrai or be packed with the Special Edition Minerva.

#30 NightViper

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

Muzzelba is a cool idea, but I'm not sure of the results.

The rest look great though. Sucks I probably won't ever own them.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:15 AM

I love it! I was really hoping they'd do a Hi-Q head (as mentioned earlier in this thread) never thought they'd go through with it. The Muzzle colored Minerva is great too, after all Minerva was released in those colors in Japan via mail order.

Randy

Edited by Powered Convoy, 12 February 2012 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:23 AM

A.. A Nightbeat colored Minerva?

That...

is....

AWESOME!!!!!

I don't know what it is, (Maybe cause I owned Nightbeat as a kid) But that thing is really pushing my Buttons, even Moreso than regular colored Minerva.

And at the very least she can still be G2 Minerva icon-fire.gif

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE(Dave Zero1 @ Feb 12 2012, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A.. A Nightbeat colored Minerva?

That...

is....

AWESOME!!!!!

I don't know what it is, (Maybe cause I owned Nightbeat as a kid) But that thing is really pushing my Buttons, even Moreso than regular colored Minerva.

And at the very least she can still be G2 Minerva icon-fire.gif


Yeah, the concept is mind-blowing!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

I wish this line wasn't like $100 a figure, and I would've considered buying one.

Muzzle Minerva is a pretty out there idea though, I'd hope that high-q's head doesn't come with her (though it would be a good way to get people to buy four figures...).

Edited by Blues, 12 February 2012 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Meister79 @ Feb 12 2012, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Axaday @ Feb 12 2012, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not clear, is the Hi-Q head coming with a separate release or are they throwing it in for free with Ginrai?

Quig is interesting. Not sure I need that, but not sure I don't.


Yeah, still unclear about that. There seems to be photos highlighting the Hi-Q head on the poster about the Nightbeat-colored Minerva.
It is unsure whether the head will come with Ginrai or be packed with the Special Edition Minerva.


Actually, now that you point that out, it DOES make sense that way. That's probably what they're doing. A 3rd set to America up your figures if you want to.

QUOTE(Blues)
I wish this line was like $100 a figure, and I would've considered buying one.


Isn't that about what they are?

Edited by Axaday, 12 February 2012 - 11:33 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:38 AM

Yeah they're $100+ from what I've seen.

The Hi-Q head definitely comes with Muzzle Minerva. Which makes sense and has an extra incentive to purchase.

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#37 Blues

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE(Axaday @ Feb 12 2012, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Blues)
I wish this line was like $100 a figure, and I would've considered buying one.


Isn't that about what they are?

lol.

That's what I get for not reading before I post.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 12:41 PM

I'd seriously considering getting any of the Pretender shells done like this.

EDIT: Removed off-topic chatter

Edited by MrBlud, 12 February 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

There are only 40 posts in this thread and most of them are short...

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 12 2012, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 12 2012, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd love it for them or someone else to make a replaceable head so you can make Ginrai or Hi-Q.

But... they are.


I didn't see one in the picture, just the original head. Please link to the alternate head?



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