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@  Msol : (24 May 2016 - 01:01 AM)

So what's the over/under for when beetleman is banned?

@  Telly : (24 May 2016 - 12:26 AM)

is the christmas/holiday special in the latest mtmte trade? or atleast mtmte's segment of that comic

@  Plokatron : (23 May 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Robotic warriors give it their all! Fighting disguised till the victor stands tall!

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 05:12 PM)

He tried to introduce himself once, but then he was compelled to kidnap himself and nobody's seen him since.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2016 - 04:53 PM)

wait, what about Candlejac

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:45 PM)

All legends are true, except for the ones that aren't.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (23 May 2016 - 04:39 PM)

The Nightitme Secret Aardvark exists?! I though it was just a legend!

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:28 PM)

Well, maybe. That depends on you, really. What you do behind closed doors is none of my business. I'm not the NSA.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (23 May 2016 - 04:24 PM)

Your nights shall be completely shame-free, however.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:16 PM)

Nope. You will bear the shame of this for all of your days.

@  Telly : (23 May 2016 - 04:00 PM)

can i delete this shout?

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2016 - 02:58 PM)

..goes on forever, forever, forever my...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2016 - 12:58 AM)

And a partridge in the song that doesn't end, yes it...

@  Paladin : (22 May 2016 - 06:52 PM)

just as Killamanjaro rises above the Serenghetti....

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2016 - 05:41 PM)

Stayin' alive! Stayin' alive!

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 05:21 PM)

Everybody walk the dinosaur!

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2016 - 05:14 PM)

Bombin' the floor! Bombin' the floor!

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 May 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Breakin the law, breakin the law! :::air guitars:::

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2016 - 04:09 PM)

I'm watching plenty of TV, but I'm doing it all through the internet.

@  tffan01 : (22 May 2016 - 03:38 PM)

no.

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2016 - 03:03 PM)

is anyone watching more web original shows and streamed TV shows than actual TV channels?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2016 - 10:49 AM)

I wanted to charge my book, but couldn't cause my brother was charging his cigarette... the future is stupid.

@  Pennpenn : (22 May 2016 - 09:05 AM)

I hate that situation where you spend ages to find something, then realize it isn't charged, but you can't find the charging cable.

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 09:00 AM)

Only cartoons I keep up with are RID2015, Rescue Bots, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Rick & Morty

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 08:59 AM)

no, I don't really watch cartoons on tv no more

@  tffan01 : (22 May 2016 - 03:54 AM)

@Locoman, have you watched the cartoon I was talking about (Supernoobs) though?

@  Telly : (21 May 2016 - 10:34 PM)

"Chaos is bad for business, y'see." depends on the kind of business youre in...

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:34 PM)

Unless we're talking about the guy from Hunger Games, President Snow. He has feet.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:33 PM)

Snow doesn't have feet. It's just piles of frozen water.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:29 PM)

you wish, bud. let's see those bastards operate under six feet of snow

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:28 PM)

What I got out of that was that Canada really wants to have a plague of locusts unleashed upon them.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:25 PM)

y'see, under canadian law all broadcasting corporations operate under a mandate that at least 40% of the content they broadcast must be Canadian content. Naturally, this applies to kid's cartoon channels as well, which is a fairly niche market these days. So animators slap together very cheaply animated flash cartoons and air them in the daytime hours to fill the quota. Hence endless reruns of Johnny Test, Almost Naked Animals, etc.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 May 2016 - 09:25 PM)

Chaos is bad for business, y'see.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:17 PM)

You're a criminal mastermind. Shouldn't you want to wreak havoc?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 May 2016 - 09:16 PM)

You really want to be responsible for the creation of giant radioactive moose?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:13 PM)

Well, I didn't wanna have to do this, but it looks like we have to nuke Canada.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:12 PM)

Johnny Test isn't even the worst of it? Mother of God...

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:04 PM)

But in Canada, Johnny Test is just one of many terrible flash cartoons. It's not even the worst one.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 08:49 PM)

Pft. Cartoon Network aired Johnny Test TEN times a day for a loooooong time.

@  The Doctor Who : (21 May 2016 - 08:01 PM)

Mayhem Hangouts is Go! I repeat the loonies are converging on Google! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 07:52 PM)

My condolences. It's always sad to hear of the death of a loved one...or someone's sanity.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 07:44 PM)

Back in the days when I watched TFP on TV, they sometimes aired it six or seven times a day.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 07:44 PM)

You don't know the pain of Johnny Test until you live in Canada.

@  tffan01 : (21 May 2016 - 07:36 PM)

Anyone watched the piece of shit called the Supernoobs on Cartoon Network? It somehow managed to be worse than Johnny Test or Uncle Grandpa. It's jokes are cliche, the show is boring with stereotypical characters.

@  Confuzor : (21 May 2016 - 06:59 PM)

No euphemism. Just old farts doing stuff they shouldn't.

@  Paladin : (21 May 2016 - 06:54 PM)

unless "bounce house" is a euphemism for somethign else....

@  Confuzor : (21 May 2016 - 06:14 PM)

30 year old bodies were not meant for Bounce Houses. Oof.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2016 - 04:31 PM)

Shouldn't Sideshow be a different article?

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 04:19 PM)

That's just my opinion, if you want a better viewpoint, go ask in the TFWiki thread.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Yeah, you could probably go a bit more in depth about Sideshow Collectibles.


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Differences between United Windcharger, Warpath, & Thunderwing


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 12:38 AM

Look for galleries to come sometimes Sunday, but I got mine in today (as well as Megatron, and Rodimus a couple days ago).

I figured I'd go over the differences in these figures as some are hard to tell and may not be picked up in photos.

Windcharger
Windcharger obviously has the painted Autobot symbol versus the rub symbol on the RtS version. The light gray plastic on RtS Windcharger is significantly darker on the United version. It's a warm medium-light gray. The darker gray is also a bit darker on the United one. Also quite noticeable is the red plastic, while pretty much the same color as the RtS, while the RtS one had a swirl plastic the United one has a sparkle fleck plastic. It's quite nice looking. The gray paint on the United one is a bit darker too to go along with the darker gray plastics.

Warpath
Generations Warpath's brown/red is changed to a brick red almost identical to the original toy's red. The gray on his waist and portions of the tank are now darker (think the Legends Universe figure to the Henkei version). The United figure's hands are almost black compared to the dark gray of the Generations figure. The Z0W-333 and K4-90W are not present on the United one, it also has a silver outline Autobot symbol (with no color in it) instead of a black Autobot symbol. A nice surprise, unlike the Generations figure, is that United Warpath's head is actually cast in the same red as the rest of his body and not gray plastic painted over - not sure if TakaraTomy changed the molding for this to be possible or Hasbro just molded it in gray for some strange reason (it's akin to the whole Jazz with the painted forearms thing). Also Warpath's shoulder emplacements are still gray and not red like in some pictures.

Thunderwing
Thunderwing has more differences than I was expecting. The obvious changes are the arms are now a dark gray instead of green, the thighs and side waist panels are black instead of green, the purple is now a very light purple (lilac), and the clear orange is now a clear cherry color (different than Sky Shadow's clear red). The Decepticon symbols on are lighter on the United figure and the blue a bit darker. The lime green paint and grayish green paint is now a high gloss forest green (quite striking). The main white/light gray color of Generations Thunderwing is more of an off-white - definitely lighter than the Generations figure, less of a very light tan and more of an off-white. Despite the white color being lighter and the purple being lighter, the figure seems a lot darker than the Generations figure due to almost all the other colors getting darker. He looks very nice and overs a bit more color diversity to the other version.

As for the other figures (Wipeout, Rodimus, and Megatron) they are all very striking in their own rights. Megatron in particular really stands out, and thankfully his mouth looks quite definied with the light purple paint. I went over Rodimus in the other thread, Wipeout on the other hand uses the same light gray as United Windcharger and swaps the sparkle red for black and the dark gray for blue (plus different paint colors).

While I thought this was a weak wave overall (mainly due to the lack of changes that appeared in the figures) each figure ended up being nicer than I had expected due to the changes. I'm happy to add them to my collection.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 12:46 AM

One other thing, United Thunderwing's shoulder cannon/spike things are way more rubber than the Generations one or the Sky Shadow's. I imagine we'll be seeing someting similar on BotCon Metalhawk. Though you'd think a change like this wouldn't happen at TakaraTomy's level, I'm don't know if it was something that ever showed up on Sky Shadow's. But this isn't the first time a seemingly safety change showed up on a TakaraTomy figure rather than on a Hasbro one.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:47 AM

Yeah we all know the drill, all Takara Tomy versions are bling bling beauties, aren't they? icon-waspy.gif

I hope Hasbro releases this G2 Megs soon so I don't have to pay the import markup to have him lead my Classics G2 squad. And hopefully this Windcharger mold gets released as Decepticharge with better distribution.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:34 AM

QUOTE(Megatoron @ Feb 5 2012, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah we all know the drill, all Takara Tomy versions are bling bling beauties, aren't they? icon-waspy.gif


As far as I understand, these ones aren't blinged out like the previous United releases. Maybe a tad more paint apps than standard, but that's about it. Just straight-up deco changes.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:36 AM

Thanks for the rundown Randy. Still wish they had done more with Windcharger and Wipe Out, but at least the tiny tweaks were to the positive.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 5 2012, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The gray on his waist and portions of the tank are now darker (think the Legends Universe figure to the Henkei version). The United figure's hands are almost black compared to the dark gray of the Generations figure.


On mine, the silver plastic, gunmetal plastic and gunmetal paint on the hands are identical between the two versions. Are you sure it's not the contrast with the lighter red tricking your eye?

His left foot also doesn't lock into place nearly as well/easily as the Generations one's, but that may be an issue with the pin placement rather than the tooling or plastic.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:37 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 5 2012, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look for galleries to come sometimes Sunday, but I got mine in today (as well as Megatron, and Rodimus a couple days ago).

I figured I'd go over the differences in these figures as some are hard to tell and may not be picked up in photos.

Windcharger
Windcharger obviously has the painted Autobot symbol versus the rub symbol on the RtS version. The light gray plastic on RtS Windcharger is significantly darker on the United version. It's a warm medium-light gray. The darker gray is also a bit darker on the United one. Also quite noticeable is the red plastic, while pretty much the same color as the RtS, while the RtS one had a swirl plastic the United one has a sparkle fleck plastic. It's quite nice looking. The gray paint on the United one is a bit darker too to go along with the darker gray plastics.


Um.

Mine are absolutely identical, minus the rub sign.

No plastic color differences whatsoever.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:41 AM

I'm kind of glad Takara went plain jane on these so I don't feel compelled to get the significantly more expensive Japanese versions.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE(Megatoron @ Feb 5 2012, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope Hasbro releases this G2 Megs soon so I don't have to pay the import markup to have him lead my Classics G2 squad. And hopefully this Windcharger mold gets released as Decepticharge with better distribution.

That's not going to happen. Well the G2 Megs thing, and since Scouts don't exist any more I wouldn't count on a Decepticharge.

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 5 2012, 04:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the rundown Randy. Still wish they had done more with Windcharger and Wipe Out, but at least the tiny tweaks were to the positive.

Yeah I was happy to see they were differences.

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QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 5 2012, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The gray on his waist and portions of the tank are now darker (think the Legends Universe figure to the Henkei version). The United figure's hands are almost black compared to the dark gray of the Generations figure.


On mine, the silver plastic, gunmetal plastic and gunmetal paint on the hands are identical between the two versions. Are you sure it's not the contrast with the lighter red tricking your eye?

His left foot also doesn't lock into place nearly as well/easily as the Generations one's, but that may be an issue with the pin placement rather than the tooling or plastic.

The gun metal plastic looks the same but the gray/silver plastic appears a tint darker, but it may be the surrounding colors playing tricks on my eyes or just normal batch variation changes. I'm figuring the hands may look like that due to the underlying color underneath (I took the appearance of the silver looking different, which I didn't mention, owing to that).

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

Re: Your ridiculous Windcharger claims

I demand satisfaction!

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:12 PM

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Re: Your ridiculous Windcharger claims

I demand satisfaction!

Hmm? I see you have the United one based on the Wiki page, I take it you have the RtS one too? Take a close look at them. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:19 PM

I did. I've been taking a close look at them since Friday. When I am not typing this, I have one of them in each hand.

They are perfectly identical.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:59 PM

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 5 2012, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did. I've been taking a close look at them since Friday. When I am not typing this, I have one of them in each hand.

They are perfectly identical.

The two different shades of light gray.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:23 PM

The two reds, one with sparkles (United on the right) one without (RtS on the left). The color red is identical, it's the flecks that are not.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:27 PM

You can see the painted gray is different in this picture, as well as the darker gray a hair darker on the United one (the paint was obvious in the Alfes' Blog images too).
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:16 PM

And that's what you mean by "the gray on the United version is significantly darker"?

The differences are negligible, to the point where it's impossible to say if the slight blueisher tint in one photograph is due to the camera's attitude at that hour of the day or we're just looking at something well within the margin of batch variation.

If by some miracle of something you're actually right, I wonder which guy at Tomy was sitting down and wondering how much time he could waste by imperceptibly changing the color breakdowns .0001% bluer.

Edited by Code of Walky, 05 February 2012 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 5 2012, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that's what you mean by "the gray on the United version is significantly darker"?

It was late. icon-fire.gif I will also concede that the dark gray plastic is the same, but the red and the light gray (and the gray paint) are not. icon-hotrod.gif

Here are a couple more pics. icon-ironhide.gif
DSC00386.JPG DSC00388.JPG
United is on the right in both pictures.

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Edited by Powered Convoy, 05 February 2012 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:23 PM

Randy, you have like, super-vision, or something.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Randy, you have like, super-vision, or something.

I guess, some things stand out to be obvious to me, other times the surrounding colors will play tricks on me.

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